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post #1 of 39 Old 08-21-2019, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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I have a 04 grand Cherokee. I put a 4 inch lift on and have had nothing but problem after problem since. The vehicle has been in the shop 5 times to try and fix death wabble. I have also installed adjustable upper and lower control arms. Have had 800 dollars worth of work done to the front end. Installed duel steering stabalizer shocks. Now i am getting another wabble. I think its coming from the steering arm. My question is this, do or should i put a drop pitman arm on???? Somebody please help me !!! This has been going on for almost a year and a half.!!!

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post #2 of 39 Old 08-21-2019, 05:51 PM
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NO! To the drop Pittman.

Check the steering box for excessive play. They can be tightened as well. Otherwise, the most common reason is TracBar play. Check got that too.

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post #3 of 39 Old 08-22-2019, 08:33 AM
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I don’t mean to plagiarize anyone’s threads, but I just read a great Thread titled “The Ultimate WJ Grand Cherokee Buyers Guide”. For the life of me I couldn’t find a way to link it to you in Tapa talk, so I just took snap shots of the info that could possibly help you in your death wobble journey.

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post #4 of 39 Old 08-22-2019, 03:32 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for replys...!!
Unfortunately i have replaced almost all tie rod ends ball joints have had alignment done 4 or 5 times now... Bye the way don't take anything to TireMan !!! They didn't know how to adjust trac bar...!!!! Lol
About the only thing i haven't looked at is steering box... I am about ready to give up.
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post #5 of 39 Old 08-22-2019, 03:50 PM
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What tires are you running on? Are they in good shape with even tread wear on the front? Are they balanced?

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post #6 of 39 Old 08-22-2019, 04:07 PM
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Aftrr a few years of struggling with mine I replaced the steering box which helped. The ultimate fix was a JKS Trac Bar and KOR Bushings.

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post #7 of 39 Old 08-23-2019, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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Tires are in good shape. I have rotated them a couple times. As far as balanced I'm pretty sure that they are.
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post #8 of 39 Old 08-23-2019, 05:46 PM
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Have you looked at your caster and pinion angles to see where you are with that. At 4" of lift you should have gone with long arms in order to restore the suspension geometry to keep the ride and handling good. Here's a link to one of the simplest and best vid's on long vs short arms.
Did you do your own tape measurement alignment and re-center your front axle. How did the frame mounting hole look for the track bar, if it was ovaled or oversize you would have to fix that as well.

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post #9 of 39 Old 08-24-2019, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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Ok so its up in the air and this is what we got.
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post #10 of 39 Old 08-24-2019, 01:28 PM
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Looks like you have both new upper and lower CA's

Did you check that upper CA bushing? There are two.

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post #11 of 39 Old 08-24-2019, 08:22 PM
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Is it just me or is his adjustable track bar mounted backwards? The bend in the track bar is there to clear the center housing of the front axle, correct? If so, you might want to flip the track bar around so the adjustable portion is on the axle side and bend is over the center section of the axle. Did you property torque the TRE's and are all the bushing in the control arms including axle side of top control arms good?
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Is it just me or is his adjustable track bar mounted backwards? The bend in the track bar is there to clear the center housing of the front axle, correct? If so, you might want to flip the track bar around so the adjustable portion is on the axle side and bend is over the center section of the axle. Did you property torque the TRE's and are all the bushing in the control arms including axle side of top control arms good?
I looked at my WJ to compare, but it does look like the track bar is installed incorrectly. At least on my JKS TB, the adjustment nut is on the axle side and the larger bend accommodates the differential.
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I also run the JKS Trackbar but maybe they are different depending on manufacturers? Hopefully other chime in.
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Just got up n around and saw your posts. Thanks again for all the info. I just went out and checked the trac bar with the installation instructions, and as far as instructions and illustrations go i do have it mounted correctly. The adjustment nut goes on the driver side mount.
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post #15 of 39 Old 08-25-2019, 05:55 AM Thread Starter
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Ok how about this one ? Check out the lower ball joints. Does anything look like it's missing something ?
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