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post #1 of 24 Old 01-02-2021, 01:03 PM Thread Starter
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Speaker upgrade -- better low frequency response

My stock Mopar receiver died a few years ago. I installed a Pioneer DEH-X7800BHS receiver with Bluetooth. The Pioneer receiver is rated as a MOSFET 50W x 4. The unit works fine in the WJ.

But all my speakers are still stock, however.

If I now upgrade all factory speakers (i.e., new, more efficient, better quality) with direct fit replacement sizes, how much of an improvement in sound should I expect? Assume that a subwoofer will NOT be added. Would it make sense to replace the speakers or just keep them stock?

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post #2 of 24 Old 01-02-2021, 01:43 PM
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Definitely replace them. I thought mine sounded ok until I put some better ones in, HUGE difference! I used Rockford Fosgate R152-S in the front doors which also came with dash tweeters that have built in crossovers and R1675X2 in the rear doors, I think I paid less than $150 for all of them. I since added a Walmart bought Dual 4 channel amp installed where the stock one was, less than $100 bucks and a small 10" powered sub in the spare tire area, also a Walmart special again less than $100 bucks. All connected to a Kenwood Excelon KDC-X704. I know you said no sub, just the speakers were a vast improvement from the stock ones, which I thought sounded not bad. With the addition of the amp and sub it sounds unbelievable for the small amount of dough I have invested.
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Definitely replace them. I thought mine sounded ok until I put some better ones in, HUGE difference! I used Rockford Fosgate R152-S in the front doors which also came with dash tweeters that have built in crossovers...
For the front speakers, did you use the Rockford crossovers or just replace the existing tweeters with the Rockford ones?

Or did your GC not have the Infinity system?

Wondering because with the Infinity it looks like the amp has separate outputs for the tweeters and the door speaker.

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The dash speakers were thrashed, crackled with a bit of volume. It did have the Infinity system however I had a little, uh, mistake and it got soaked with water.... That is when I bought the rest of the stuff. The dash speakers have the crossovers built in. It's not high end by any means but for what it is it rocks this old man pretty good.

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I would think it depends on much time you spend in the rig. I upgraded my speakers because the dash speakers were shot and I was redoing the door splash shields. My old ears didn't really hear a major difference out of the door speakers.
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You'll get noticeable improvement in both high end and low end by replacing the stock speakers with quality aftermarket ones even in the same size. I did that using the stock head unit. I can't find my receipts but I think I replaced the fronts with Pioneer and the rears with Rockford Fosgate.

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Is there a sticky somewhere with the stock replacement sizes of all speakers? Does one need to order a certain efficiency level of speaker?
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post #8 of 24 Old 06-09-2021, 01:56 AM Thread Starter
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So these appear to be the original factory stock Laredo sizes.

Has anyone identified good quality upgrade Laredo speakers that are a good drop in fit for the below locations? Or are adapter brackets needed?

Upper dash
2.5" tweeters
P/N 56038612AA

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6x9" full-range
P/N 5082017AA

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6.5" full-range
P/N 56043268AA
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The upper dash speakers are apparently 2.5" full range, not tweeters.

I just ordered a set of THESE for my upper dash. They are highly rated and have a lifetime warranty so I thought I'd give them a try. I'll post up my impressions soon.

Crutchfield.com will detail all the speakers that will fit in the different locations as well as show you any needed adapters for installation.

They used to be much more expensive than other places but now their prices are competitive and they include the adapters, making them actually cheaper many times.

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I upgraded all my speakers to kickers. I put 3.5" in the upper dash and it required some fabbing to make them fit but worth it. Rest where 6x9 and 6.5 and plug and play. Only thing I'd recommend doing is soldering the connector to the speakers or splicing the harness and using a quality connector. Mine rattled loose on the trail so I had to redo it.
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Thanks - do you have the part numbers handy of the Speakers you bought.
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I'm not sure i would expect a tremendous improvement in bass response. I have a stock Infinity system that seems to be working fine, the bass seems pretty reasonable.

In door speakers aren't great because the enclosure has one side made with a floppy door panel and there is a piece of glass rattling around inside. The listening area is small with sound bouncing off of glass windows, when you want to improve bass response, don't mess around, get a sub. It doesn't have to be huge if you don't want high SPLs but if it is tiny it won't go very deep.

Sound quality can improve with speaker swaps but you are still dealing with a very compromised speaker system. Make sure you temper your expectations if you are only swapping parts.
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Thanks - do you have the part numbers handy of the Speakers you bought.
Here ya go

DSC350
DSC650
DSC6930

Reason I went with these was solely off of price. Got all my speakers for about $100

I also run a Kenwood sub, KSC-SW11, that I like. While it's not shaking my fillings loose it does a nice job of filling in the bass for music.

My deck is a a pioneer AVH-120BT. Nothing fancy but all in all I can crank the tunes to a reasonable level my my older ears.

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Thoughts on this Kicker kit? https://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-1999-2004-OEM-Speaker-Replacement-Kicker-DS-Series-Package-SC2-SPK-PACKAGE1259?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_ campaign=GoogleBaseFeed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv8jy2LqO 8QIVXW5vBB29nAY4EAQYASABEgJuXPD_BwE
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Jeep Grand Cherokee 1999-2004 OEM Speaker Replacement Kicker DS Series Package
SKU: SC2-SPK-PACKAGE1259
This Package Includes the Following Items:

3 x Buick Chevy Cadillac GMC Oldsmobile Factory Speaker Replacement Harness
1 x Kicker 43DSC69304 6"x9" DS Series 70W RMS 3 Way 4-Ohm Coaxial Car Audio Speakers DSC693
1 x Kicker 43DSC3504 3.5" DS Series 15W RMS 4 Ohm Coaxial Car Audio Speakers DSC35
1 x Kicker 43DSC6504 6.5" DS Series 50W RMS 4 Ohm Coaxial Car Audio Speakers DSC65
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