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post #1 of 18 Old 04-06-2020, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
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Removing a 2002 WJ destroyed lug nut

The chrome-covered (aluminum?) lug nut broke in half after I didn't heat it up before I tried removing it.
- I then tried to drill the lug nut out. I started with 3/16 cobalt bit and it broke off about 1.5 inches into the lug. .
- After that it turned to chaos. No drill bit could get through the cobalt bit. I also tried the "rescue bit", which was eaten up by the cobalt bit.
- I then tried nut extractors, but they just deformed the nut.
- Then I tried drilling the nut and using a chisel, but this seems to just bend the metal instead of cracking it.
- Next, I ensured my car would not be going anywhere, and pushed out the remaining lugs (into the rotor area - so wheel cannot turn any more). I did this in hopes of pulling the tire/rim outwards from the opposite side as the broken lug nut to snap the remainder of it off (or snap the lug). I don't have enough power to pull break it with with just my body...and if I pull too hard with say ratchet straps, it will just pull the car).
- My next move would be to find a device that I can put between the rotor and the rim, on the opposite side as the broken lug nut), so separate the two and hopefully snap the lug or pull the nut off.

My two questions would be
1) Does anyone know of a device that could do this separation?
2) Is there a better way than what I plan on doing?

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post #2 of 18 Old 04-06-2020, 07:07 PM
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Had the same thing happen on a 94 zj ended up using a dremel to remove the 1/2 wheel stud and nut.
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post #3 of 18 Old 04-06-2020, 07:43 PM
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you might try a Porta Power if you have one or a hydraulic bottle jack turned sideways. However the wheel might actually break if pressure is applied such as what you were asking. One option would be to cut the wheel off of it and then you would have a little better access to it. Regardless of whatever it takes it doesn't look like it would be much fun. Best of luck with it and look forward to other suggestions.
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What sort of "bit"/ dremel attachment did you use?
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post #5 of 18 Old 04-06-2020, 09:00 PM
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That sucks! Its gonna be hard to do this without screwing up the wheel. Last resort would be a cutting torch,(maybe you could just blow straight through it towards the rotor without messing up the wheel to bad-but i doubt it) but only if you have new wheels on your horizon....If you didnt have plans for new wheels, maybe your plans just got changed.

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What sort of "bit"/ dremel attachment did you use?
Oh man that was about 9 years ago now lol. I almost think it was a tapered type of bit. I worked at a dealership a mechanic friend said go get that jeep I'm taking that wheel off!
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post #7 of 18 Old 04-06-2020, 09:45 PM
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You were doing OK until you broke that drill bit. I'm thinking that a few carbide burrs and a die grinder might slowly do away with the remains of the drill bit.
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post #8 of 18 Old 04-07-2020, 05:55 AM
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Dremel makes a tungsten grinding bit. That should get you far enough along.

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post #9 of 18 Old 04-07-2020, 12:18 PM
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Yeah good chance the wheel won't be saved but maybe if you turn the steering wheel all the way one direction (with messed up lug on "in" side) jam something (chunk of 4x4 or similar) between inside of opposite side of wheel and frame then turn steering wheel opposite direction? Man I hope this even makes sense. The idea being to break the last stud off but yeah, very possibly gonna break the wheel in the process (or dent that thin frame careful). I like Bigrigr's idea of cutting torch as a hail mary, might be all you have left at this point. Good luck, you'll get it.
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Ive had good luck using a hole saw to chew away the remaining piece of nut. No pilot pit in the saw while drilling.
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That sucks! Its gonna be hard to do this without screwing up the wheel. Last resort would be a cutting torch,(maybe you could just blow straight through it towards the rotor without messing up the wheel to bad-but i doubt it) but only if you have new wheels on your horizon....If you didnt have plans for new wheels, maybe your plans just got changed.

If I was gonna sacrifice the rim, it might be better to use a grinder instead of a torch. A Makita should go through an aluminum rim with no trouble

I wouldn't trust myself to not set wrong things on fire with a torch (abs wires, rubber lines, etc.)

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I was able to save my wheel with minimal damage
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post #13 of 18 Old 04-08-2020, 09:43 AM
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Grinder, drill, chisels, punches, elbow grease. You’ll get it. Just takes patience and maybe some bruised knuckles.
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post #14 of 18 Old 04-08-2020, 01:23 PM
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Really bad luck with the cobalt bit. Were you stopping regularly to shoot some cutting fluid in there?

I had a stuck rear wheel locking nut on my WJ last year, and had to drlll through the nut and then the stud, using increasing diameter bits. The drill seemed to be going so far into the depths that I was sure I was about to break through the other end of the stud, but when I finally got the old nut off and then hammered the remains of the stud out I found that I was only just halfway along it.
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Hopefully these vids will help someone in the future:


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