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post #1 of 33 Old 05-07-2021, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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re: type of wood to use with jack/stands?

Bought my WJ a couple years ago, and the jack was gone. Finally bought a replacement bottle jack (non-oem, no axle cradle) and a couple stands. Thanks to about 3/4" suspension droop on one side, I need a little extra oomph at the frame jacking points. Since I don't have an axle cradle, I'm not comfortable using the jack on the outer ends of the axle tube (d44a, so also not using the diff).

To start off, I know nothing about lumber other than "2x4" and "plywood" lol. I'm looking to grab 2 pieces maybe 2-3 feet of 2x4 for that little extra bit of oomph on each side (placed between the frame and the top of the jack/stands).
Looking around, I'm seeing all sorts like basic "wood", poplar, red oak, cedar... framing studs, etc. Does the wood type matter for strength/durability?


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Oak is a hard wood. Cedar, Poplar, Pine, and Fir are soft woods.
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Go to a construction site and see if you can find a piece of GluLam beam. A garage door header is a good example. Ask if they have a cut off end you can have, it is by far the strongest piece of wood you can find.

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I have to say, I have never really worried about what type of wood in a 2x4 shape. I have never had just cheap ol pine let me down in this kind of situation. Just get whatever is cheapest...


I think I'm more worries about your 2" sag on one side....Thats significant

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I personally wouldn't get under anything that has wood between the jackstand and the vehicle. I've always lifted my Jeeps using the control arm brackets on the bottom of the axle and never had a problem.

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Oak seems pretty expensive by me, about $80 for 2x4x6, so for this purpose, that's gonna be a no-go for me.

I wish I'd have thought of the construction site idea, they just finished redoing all of the balconies in my apartment complex and had a giant dumpster out front.

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I think I'm more worries about your 2" sag on one side....Thats significant
I don't have a full 2", I have 3/4 of an inch on the passenger rear. A tiny bit driver front as well. When I do my brakes and have better line of sight, I'll try to see what might be causing it. Nothings making any rattles or clunks, so I never would've noticed unless I'd measured as I did.

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You want to put wood on a bottle jack? That seems like a bad idea. If the head/pressure point of the bottle jack is small, it stands a good chance of splitting the wood. If it’s just a temporary lifting, I’d try a hockey puck.

If you’re going to be working on your vehicle, a good floor jack is worth the investment and makes lifting vehicles much easier.
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I only ever use a block of slightly soft wood between the jack head and whatever I'm jacking on, never between the jackstand and the frame.
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yea the cost of lumber any more makes small bits worth money. I have always had a 4x6 about 10" . Its DF. has done the job. Personally cribbing over jacks any day if its real heavy/ stability.

reality i would bet a soft wood: not balsa , jack to frame would stick better then say if you had oak, ash etc.. Hypotheses is the oak would be more likely to slide. Not many will have a 2x4 made of oak. LOL a pine one is 12$ right now places. oak would be like 200 easy for say clear straight.. last 1x6 was like $65 for 8' was not great stuff as well..

packing for Rubicon and Fordyce right now, that 4x6 goes.. It can be jammed between a frame and axle as well with some straps can be what gets you out. as well its wood it burns in a pinch. mines got oil in it so might not smell to nice...

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It comes down to how much is it worth to not feel a 5,000 lb vehicle fall on you. I'm pretty sure the hospital bill will be more than the wood.
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I don't know what the big deal is jacking on the diff? I've always just put the floor jack on the lower control arm. I mean the tire is connected to the end already and my diff tubes are still mint.

Theres quite a bit of droop when you lift on the body at least there with my upcountry. Bottle Jack's scare me they tip over if unsecured or on crappy ground.
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you wouldn't put the wood between the jack and the jeep anyways. you'd set the jack on top of a large, stable piece of wood. once you have lifted your jeep, the bottle jack serves no purpose. get a proper floor jack, or get a piece of pt 2x8, and cut a couple of pieces. maybe a 14", a 12" and a 10" piece, then stack them up. (as needed) jack it up THEN put your jackstand under the frame, or axle tube, and lower the jeep onto the stand. THEN you can go underneath, and work safely.

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^^ That is the use I meant. A piece of GluLam under the jack to stabilize. And I have jacked my 04 up by the center diff more times than I can remember with no ill effects.
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I have jacked my 04 up by the center diff more times than I can remember with no ill effects.

this is the way i do mine too. the pumpkin can easily carry the weight of the rear of the jeep, when jacking. after lifting it up, i get the jackstand lip into the pocket of the rear control arm frame mount. mine's up there now, getting ready to swap the crown crap out of the rear end.
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Oak seems pretty expensive by me, about $80 for 2x4x6, so for this purpose, that's gonna be a no-go for me.

I wish I'd have thought of the construction site idea, they just finished redoing all of the balconies in my apartment complex and had a giant dumpster out front.


I don't have a full 2", I have 3/4 of an inch on the passenger rear. A tiny bit driver front as well. When I do my brakes and have better line of sight, I'll try to see what might be causing it. Nothings making any rattles or clunks, so I never would've noticed unless I'd measured as I did.

Probably just saggy springs then.....time for a lift kit!!!!
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