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post #1 of 13 Old 11-16-2019, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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Power Steering Pump with Pulley

Needing to replace my power steering pump, but don't want to deal with removing the pulley. I believe I can buy a Mopar pump with pulley online but no one at the web site I want to purchase from can verify if what I want to order will fit my Jeep, a 2002 Grand Cherokee Special Edition 4.0 liter inline 6.

The Mopar part number I have is R2855925AD. The guys at BAM are worthless at answering my questions so I know I can always trust my forum buds. Here's the BAM link ...

https://www.bamwholesaleparts.com/oe...bC1sNi1nYXM%3D

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post #2 of 13 Old 11-17-2019, 12:05 AM
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That R2855925AD part number isn't going to be in any of our WJ parts lists because that "R" at the beginning stands for 'Re-manufactured'. The WJ parts lists I have only have new OE/Mopar parts in them but many are discontinued because of age.

Rockauto is pretty good about finding parts along with numbers. When I enter in that above number from that batchitcrazy website into RA it says that power steering pump fits the 2008-2010 Dodge Dakota and 2011 Dodge Ram so that isn't going to work. (Click on blue part number in below RA link to see the buyers guide and what it's going to fit)

https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mo...ring+pump,7380

I don't really see on that Bam website where it says it fits your 02 4.0. Not sure if that's what came up when you did a search or not?

In entering in your 02 4.0 at Rockauto the Mopar R2088278AB comes up but it's the re-manufactured pump w/reservoir but w/o the pulley. But it's pricey at $130 plus shipping and $30 core charge.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...386783&jsn=395

The Mopar pulley is only $14 but it likely doesn't come with the bolt to hold it on.

Do yourself a favor and remove the high-pressure line hex-head fitting from your old OE power steering pump and install it in your new/reman pump before trading it in as the core. There's a flow control valve in that line fitting and often a reman pump comes with the wrong one (not enough holes or too small of one) which will goof your steering up from what it was before.

Unfortunately reman power steering pumps don't have the best reputation but what can you do if you need one? I know Kolak on here doesn't carry them anymore. Some say buy one at a local parts store with a lifetime warranty but I'm more like you in going after Mopar. But likely they're rebuilt by the same company like Cardone. Good luck.

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Thank you for your sagacious advice, sounds like you've been there - done that - got the t-shirt. As you know it's frustrating hearing "discontinued". Also frustrating not being able to find a new or even rebuilt pump complete with reservoir and pulley. Your advice regarding the hex fitting is much appreciated. Just another reason I love this forum and all of the generous Jeep folks who live here. I'll keep looking for what I want but may have to settle for what I need. Over the years my Jeep has forced me to be tenacious. Only 255,781 miles ... three engines, two transmissions, and three rear ends. Too deep in to get rid of it. Ugh. At least you've had better luck with your Jeeps, according to your profile. Thanks again, sir.
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You're welcome and hope you find what you're looking for. Below is some info on those flow control valves regarding the number of holes and size of the main one.

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310...l#post37033330

Unfortunately photobucket is making that one image blurry in trying to get money out of their users. Real nice....

While the above thread is mainly for the 4.7 from experience I've learned on my 96 4.0 ZJ the flow control valves can differ. I bought a reman power steering pump from NAPA and while my OE one was supposed to be HD with the tow package the NAPA pump made my ZJ turn harder. I should have taken it back and lesson learned on keeping your OE flow control valve.

Sounds like you're used to lots of repairs including engine replacements. Good luck with the power steering pump and let us know how it goes.

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I'll tack on to this thread instead of startimg a new one.

I'm also in need of a new power steering pump, I think. Steering effort when not moving has been high for quite a while, but justbeen living with it. But since I'm looking to build it into a little more capable off road rig,I need to replace..... as long as it isn't the steering box?

Mine is a 2000 WJ with the 4.7l. I keep seeing references to different pumps to support the hydraulic fan in years after 2002(I think). Can any of the pumps be used, or do I need a specific version for my 2000 WJ, 4.7l?
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You're welcome and hope you find what you're looking for. Below is some info on those flow control valves regarding the number of holes and size of the main one.

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310...l#post37033330

Unfortunately photobucket is making that one image blurry in trying to get money out of their users. Real nice....

While the above thread is mainly for the 4.7 from experience I've learned on my 96 4.0 ZJ the flow control valves can differ. I bought a reman power steering pump from NAPA and while my OE one was supposed to be HD with the tow package the NAPA pump made my ZJ turn harder. I should have taken it back and lesson learned on keeping your OE flow control valve.

Sounds like you're used to lots of repairs including engine replacements. Good luck with the power steering pump and let us know how it goes.
Indeed, I am used to many repairs - from heater core replacement (lots of fun, ugh) to signal relay (solder the tabs, you don't need a new one) to broken wiring in the door boots to engine replacements to ... you get the point. But I still love my Jeep, I've never been stuck anywhere and I've put it through the paces. It even treaded water through a creek dang near up to the side view mirrors, and not a drop of water came in. That put a permanent wedge in my seat though, where my butt cheeks were clenched together so tight. Ha! Regarding the PS pump unit, the best deal I could find on a new, not remanned PS pump was at Autozone, $110 for a Duralast with a coupon - but no pulley. I decided to peruse my ever faithful car-parts.com for a used one and found a complete unit with pump, pulley, and reservoir for $40. Low mileage and in very good condition. So I'm leaning toward that route. It's what I want - and need - at a good price, and it's an original Mopar. So what the heck, right? I value your opinion Uniblurb, what would you do?
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Indeed, I am used to many repairs - from heater core replacement (lots of fun, ugh) to signal relay (solder the tabs, you don't need a new one) to broken wiring in the door boots to engine replacements to ... you get the point. But I still love my Jeep, I've never been stuck anywhere and I've put it through the paces. It even treaded water through a creek dang near up to the side view mirrors, and not a drop of water came in. That put a permanent wedge in my seat though, where my butt cheeks were clenched together so tight. Ha! Regarding the PS pump unit, the best deal I could find on a new, not remanned PS pump was at Autozone, $110 for a Duralast with a coupon - but no pulley. I decided to peruse my ever faithful car-parts.com for a used one and found a complete unit with pump, pulley, and reservoir for $40. Low mileage and in very good condition. So I'm leaning toward that route. It's what I want - and need - at a good price, and it's an original Mopar. So what the heck, right? I value your opinion Uniblurb, what would you do?
Deep water isn't where I'd want to be either! Lol.

I have a new, not reman, Duralast 160amp alternator on my 04 4.7. In less than a year the front bearing started whining and still does sometimes. Point is 'new' isn't chalked up to the OE stuff and I'm going to have to return it.

Believe I'd go after the $40 used one from car-parts.com. After all it has everything on it you want and if it is low mileage that's even better. Good luck and let us know how it works out.

BTW, be sure to use something like amber spec 5931 fluid for your power steering system rather than the red ATF+4. The Valvoline PS fluid I use is MS5931 spec and below is some good info on fluids/maintenance from wjjeeps.

http://www.wjjeeps.com/service/maintenance_wj.htm

PS. I may have to answer you later Mogul unless you want to start a new thread. I don't have the parts list for the 2000 so can't really tell if it's the same PS pump used on later year models.

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Mogul, is your PSP making noise such as squeaking or squealing (worn bearings)? Does it help to spray WD-40 or lithium grease on the axis of the pulley? (another sign of bad bearings). Is it leaking fluid anywhere? If not you may need to look at your steering box, which can be a vulnerable unit on these WJs.
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Thank you Uniblurb

Many thanks for your advice, you can bet I'll heed every word. I'll post the results when all is said and done. Take the rest of the week off with pay, I'll write you a note. Ha!
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No squeaking or squealing noises. It does seem to leak.... or at least I have to add fluid. But I suppose that could be leaking from the steering box as well? I haven't heard much a out steering boxes failing, is the symptom also hard steering?
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Believe I'd spray all that leaking power steering fluid down with brake cleaner then wipe it off with a rag. Try to pinpoint where your leak is since many of them are repairable. And typically if you have fluid leaking out of your system it can also let air and other contaminants in making steering harder. Run the fluid too low and you can damage the pump itself.

BTW Mogul, the hydraulic fan connected to the power steering pump came on the 01-04 year 4.7 WJ's.

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No squeaking or squealing noises. It does seem to leak.... or at least I have to add fluid. But I suppose that could be leaking from the steering box as well? I haven't heard much a out steering boxes failing, is the symptom also hard steering?
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I know you are reaching out to your fellow forum members for guidance, however, should you decide to visit your dealer, feel free to send us a PM. We'd be happy to connect you with a Case Specialist to assist.
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I keep seeing references to different pumps to support the hydraulic fan in years after 2002(I think). Can any of the pumps be used, or do I need a specific version for my 2000 WJ, 4.7l?
If you get a reman, do NOT turn in your old pump as a core until you have checked this page: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...l#post37033330

It seems that rebuilders have no freakin' clue that there are 2 different outputs, depending on cooling options.
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