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post #1 of 15 Old 06-05-2021, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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My day of up's and down's.

I decided to install some 3/4" Rough Country lift spacers in the front to level the Jeep a little more. The rake from front to back just didn't look good in my eyes. I did the driver's side first. Everything went well until I was torquing down the lug nuts. One stud snapped.
I then moved to the passenger side, and when I went to pull the spring off the perch, the perch pretty much came with it. There was a little of it left but I see more work in the near future.
The good news is the rig looks a lot more level. I did install my spare wheel/tire temporarily because it's the OEM that came on the Jeep. It confirmed what I've suspected: the wheels I bought don't have enough offset. I did pick up a new lug stud at the parts store. Doesn't look too difficult to replace.

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The fun continues......
I picked up a new lug bolt and lug nut. I used a 2lb sledge to gently remove the broken lug bolt. Piece of cake ! Went to install the new one and it's to small for the hub hole. Slid right in....no pressing needed. Lol. I went ahead and used it until I can find the correct size. The nut did tighten down to torque spec so I'm not worried about it for now. Ordered repair parts for the rusted perches.
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On the plus side you found that rotten perch before it became bad enough to be a more severe hazard.


Wheel stud sizes are one of those things that has always confused me a bit. Does there really need to be so many different ones? Why isn't there just a handful of universal sizes that the OEMs can pick from?
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The real irritating thing about the stud is they don't use mm or fractional measurements, no, they use 0.667" and 1.985". REALLY?!?!
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First, I love the look of those wheels.

However, it looks like those are not the correct lug nuts for those wheels. They're made to use a long shank lug nut that fits through a washer that fits into those recesses around each lug, and covers the stud, filling the space between each stud and the hole in the wheel. They look like these: https://www.amazon.com/Cragar-Standa.../dp/B07GHC5HYX They come in different lengths, to fit different wheel thicknesses.

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I can see what you're saying, but these wheels have a flared seat at the bottom of that recess. The nuts have a matching male flare. The drawback is that you have to wiggle the wheel back and forth while putting the nuts on to center them. These wheels aren't long for this vehicle though. I've got a new set of Touren's in the cart at Summit Racing.
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The holes may have a taper, but those lug nuts are barely holding the wheel on. They leave a large space around each stud. The proper lug nuts fill that space and help hold the wheel centered. I suspect that the current studs have been over-stressed, thus the one that snapped while being tightened to stock specs. That large, flat machined area around each hole is there for a reason.
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I'll have to ask the tire shop that I bought the wheels and tires from about it.
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I'd be a little concerned about that stud spinning in the hub when you take it off. Honestly I'd have just left it off 4 out of 5 is still pretty good.
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I'd be a little concerned about that stud spinning in the hub when you take it off. . . .
Yeah, that really bear thinking about - by the side of the highway on a cold, wet night.


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. . . I'd have just left it off 4 out of 5 is still pretty good.
Me too, but only 'til I could get the right one.
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Both bolt and lug nut are brand new. Once loosened, the nut will spin off by hand. If either one were used before then it would have been an issue for sure.
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Both bolt and lug nut are brand new. Once loosened, the nut will spin off by hand. If either one were used before then it would have been an issue for sure.
I would suggest that the stud broke because with the stock lug-nuts you have there is only about 3 full threads engaged in the nut.
Please change them immediately to the shank style HarryH3 recommends.

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If thread engagement was the issue I'd expect to see the stud stripped, not snapped off.

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You've got a point there.
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Both bolt and lug nut are brand new. Once loosened, the nut will spin off by hand. If either one were used before then it would have been an issue for sure.
Can't say I'd be looking forward to loosening that nut, when there's nothing to stop the stud turning - in fact, it beats me how it was possible to tighten it in the 1st place.
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