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post #1 of 10 Old 01-02-2015, 05:22 PM Thread Starter
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Instrument cluster reprogramming?

I have been searching but not having much luck. I have a 99 limited. While at my local pull a part, I found 2 electroluminescent instrument clusters. One from a 02 limited, and another from a 04 limited. I am keeping the 02 cluster and selling the 04 cluster.
I want to put the 02 cluster in my 99. I plugged it in to check it and everything seems to work fine. However the mileage is wrong. Its showing like 135k, while my jeep has 199k. So naturally I want it reprogrammed to match. So since this seems like a popular swap, I was wondering where everyone has been getting theirs reprogrammed at? I have not been able to find anywhere local. I found a couple places online and called them. One place wants $140 to do it, and the other wanted $278!!!!
I'm thinking there has to be a more affordable way out there? I dont mind sending it off if I can get a better price.

Also, like I have seen mentioned in other writeups about this swap, the seatbelt and air bag lights stay on. Most I saw just removed the seatbelt bulb, and either broke off, or painted over the air bag LED bulb. But I was wondering, what is making the lights come on and stay on? It appears the cluster and guages are controlled by the pci bus system. But what module is sending the signals to the cluster to light up those lights? Is it a year difference/module difference issue? Would it be something as simple as swapping the BCM with the one from the jeep I pulled the cluster from? What about the air bag controll module? I could go back and get those for cheap. But would they swap over? I cant find any listings for if there are year to year differences for those modules. Thoughts? Ideas?


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post #2 of 10 Old 01-02-2015, 07:33 PM
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I swapped one out of an 02 into my 99 and I separated the cluster from the bezel and put two small strips of electrical tape to cover the airbag light and I removed the seat belt light. I would like to have mine reprogrammed as well but I'm very happy with the gauge swap.
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post #4 of 10 Old 01-02-2015, 11:31 PM
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Only the dealer can reprogram the guages to match. It's a PITA from what I've heard. Dealers are wary of such things and make you feel like a criminal.
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post #5 of 10 Old 01-02-2015, 11:38 PM
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Dealers can only program brand new clusters. Used WJ clusters need to have the eeprom edited to correct the mileage.


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Only the dealer can reprogram the guages to match. It's a PITA from what I've heard. Dealers are wary of such things and make you feel like a criminal.
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Dealers can only program brand new clusters. Used WJ clusters need to have the eeprom edited to correct the mileage.
I was talking about the whole cluster not just mileage.
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post #7 of 10 Old 01-03-2015, 12:30 AM
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Other then the mileage in a new cluster there is nothing that needs or accepts programming or reprogramming.

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I was talking about the whole cluster not just mileage.
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post #8 of 10 Old 01-03-2015, 04:49 PM Thread Starter
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Like I said, I have found two places that can reprogram this cluster, the cheaper one of the two wants $140 to do it. I was just hoping someone might know of a place that could do it for a more reasonable price.

Still looking for input on the BCM/air bag module. I am wondering if anyone has even tried to look into why the swap causes these lights to come on. I am wondering if there are BCM and air bag control module differences through the years? I am almost tempted to go back to the yard and grab them from the same jeep I got the cluster from. I don't care so much about the seat belt light. But the air bag light I would kinda like to work, as it comes on when there is a issue with the system.

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post #9 of 10 Old 01-03-2015, 09:06 PM
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I think that since the cluster needs to be taken apart to get at the eeprom and the amount of money it costs to buy the gear plus the knowledge to know how do it, $140 seems a very reasonable price.


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Like I said, I have found two places that can reprogram this cluster, the cheaper one of the two wants $140 to do it. I was just hoping someone might know of a place that could do it for a more reasonable price.

Still looking for input on the BCM/air bag module. I am wondering if anyone has even tried to look into why the swap causes these lights to come on. I am wondering if there are BCM and air bag control module differences through the years? I am almost tempted to go back to the yard and grab them from the same jeep I got the cluster from. I don't care so much about the seat belt light. But the air bag light I would kinda like to work, as it comes on when there is a issue with the system.
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post #10 of 10 Old 05-29-2020, 04:05 AM
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It may not be as easy as reprogramming the odometer, you may need to program the VIN number as well, you may lend up with a mismatch, this could be the reason you have air bags light coming on.
I had the same problem with a 2007 Jeep grand cherokee, and because the VIN did not match it caused problems with all sorts of things so you are better getting someone that knows what they are doing.
I did my own and it takes some time and fiddling around with the eeprom, but if you want to give it a go I will help you as much as l can.
You will need a eeprom programmer, soldering iron, solder and flux.
Good luck
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