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post #1 of 58 Old 10-09-2018, 02:56 PM Thread Starter
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Wj 2004 WJ TRL HWK Build - Trails and Camping

Well, after trying out a few other AWD's and 4x4's (Suzuki and Isuzu) I am back to Jeep again! Every time I purchased another vehicle that wasn't Jeep.. I just ended up feeling like the vehicle was a wannabe and lacking. So here is my new-to-me 2004 WJ with 136k. Nothing special yet, but with Upcountry, Varilock F/R and Skidplates I figured it was a good place to start.

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Vehicle Description 2004 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE LIMITED 4X4 SPORT UTILITY 4-DR


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STANDARD EQUIPMENT
Luxury Group
Monotone Paint
136 Amp Alternator
625 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Low Back Bucket Seats
Highline Door Trim Panel
Rear 60/40 Folding Seat
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Next Gen Multistage Front Air Bags**
Floor Carpet
Cargo Compartment Carpet
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Front & Rear Floor Mats
Covered Cargo Storage
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Driver Foot Rest
Cargo Compartment Cover
Passenger Assist Handles
Mini Overhead Console
Full Length Floor Console
All 5-Speed Automatic Transmissions
Lock-Up Torque Converter
Quadra-Trac II On Demand 4WD System
Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
Tinted Windshield Glass
Front Door Tinted Glass
Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
Flipper Liftgate Glass
Rear Window Defroster
Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
Rear View Auto Dim Mirror
Power Heat Driver Auto Dim Mirrors
Remote Keyless Entry
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Cond ATC w/Dual Zone Control
Hood Insulation
Deluxe Insulation Group
Electroluminescent Instr Cluster
120 MPH Primary Speedometer
Rear Window Wiper/Washer
Dual Note Electric Horns
Glove Box
12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
Power Accessory Delay
Power Locks
Power Windows, Driver One-Touch
EXTERIOR COMPONENT COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Courtesy Lamps

Glove Box Lamp

Rear Courtesy/Reading Lamps

Cargo Compartment Lamp

Radio/Driver Seat/Mirror Memory

Halogen Headlamps

Front Fog Lamps
CHMSL Lamp

Security Alarm

Front License Plate Bracket

Bright Grille

Black Windshield Moldings

Limited Badge

Grand Cherokee Badge

Jeep Badge

Side Roof Rails

20.5 Gallon Fuel Tank

Speed Control

Light Pewter Metallic Clear Coat

Infinity Speakers

Fixed Long Mast Antenna

Power Steering

Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel

Tilt Steering Column

Inside Mounted Spare Tire

Protective Coating and Remover

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Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
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OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats 
Sandstone 
Cold Weather Group

Skid Plate Group

Trailer Tow Group IV 

Radio-CD/Cass/10 Disc/Infinity Spkrs 

Quadra-Drive II (R) 4WD System 

Up Country Suspension Group(97-2-26) 

Mutually Exclusive Package 

Supplemental Side Air Bags 

Supp. Side Curtain Frt/Rr Air Bags 

5-Spd Automatic 
545RFE Transmission 

3.73 Rear Axle Ratio 

Dana 44/226MM Rear Axle 

Vari-Lok Progressive Front Axle 

Vari-Lok Progressive Rear Axle 

4.7L V8 Power Tech Engine 

Power Sunroof 

Rain Sensitive Windshield Wipers 

12V Rear Auxiliary Power Outlet 

Power 10-Way Heated Memory Seats 
Vehicle Information Center 

Traveler/Mini Trip Computer 

Automatic Headlamps 

V-8 Badge 

Adjustable Roof Rail Crossbars 

Quadra Drive Badge 

50 State Emissions 

Federal Tier 2, Bin 9A Emissions 

Power Steering Cooler 

Hydraulic Engine Cooling 

Light Pewter Metallic Clear Coat 

All Radio Equipped Vehicles 

AM/FM CD GPS Navigation Radio 

10-Disc Remote CD Changer 

Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls 

Heavy Duty Suspension w/Gas Shocks 

Full Size Spare Tire w/Matching Whl 

P235/65R17 OWL All Terrain Tires 

Goodyear Brand Tires 

17X7.5 Aluminum Chrome Wheels 

All Aluminum Wheels 

Power Adjustable Pedals w/Memory 

Tow Hooks 

Fuel Tank Skid Plate 
Shield 
Transfer Case Skid Plate 
Shield 
Front Suspension Skid Plate 

Class IV Receiver Hitch 

7 Pin Wiring Harness 

7 to 4 Pin Wiring Adaptor 

Universal Garage Door Opener 

Tire Pressure Monitoring Display 

Manuf Statement of Origin 

7 Additional Gallons of Gas 

Spring - Left Front 

Spring - Left Rear 

Spring - Right Front 

Spring - Right Rear 

GVW Rating - 5500# 

Customer Preferred Package 2TK 

Customer Preferred Package 28K 

V-8 Bonus Discount 
Limited Equipment Discount 




Coming up next I will be putting on my JK Rubicons with 255/65R17 Tires... still can't decide If I'll do wheel spacers yet.

The goal of this vehicle is to have a 4x4 with 4lo to get me to my favorite paragliding launches (wussy AWD just won't cut it). Allow for (ceiling winch) roof loading of a RTT and still fit out of the garage. Keep the lift profile low so my old Great Dane can still jump in the back. Increase offload abilities/flex better than stock. And add in a 242HD to try to maintain decent mpgs and decrease wear on the front axle, maybe gain 4PT and 4FT.

So there you have it, better pictures and build info to come!


Stock Specs;
-Purchased in Oct 2018
-2004 Limited
-Mileage 136K
-Color - Pewter
-Leather Seating
-Wheels - Rogue Chrome
-4.7l V8
-Upcountry Suspension Package
-D30 Front Varilok - 3.73
-D44A Rear Varilok - 3.73
-NV247 Quadra-Drive


2004 WJ TRL HWK Edition
Upcountry, 265/65R17in Tires, JK Rubicon Wheels
F/R Vari-lock
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post #2 of 58 Old 10-09-2018, 03:20 PM
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And add in a 242 to try to maintain decent mpgs and decrease wear on the front axle.
Nice looking rig, but I think you can save yourself some money by not bothering with the NP242 swap, at least for those reasons. WJ's don't have locking hubs, so the wheels are always connected to the axle shafts, so everything up front will still be spinning in 2WD. Your current NP247 also doesn't drive the front axle until it detects that the rear is starting to go faster than the front, then the hydraulic coupler engages the front driveshaft.
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Nice looking rig, but I think you can save yourself some money by not bothering with the NP242 swap, at least for those reasons. WJ's don't have locking hubs, so the wheels are always connected to the axle shafts, so everything up front will still be spinning in 2WD. Your current NP247 also doesn't drive the front axle until it detects that the rear is starting to go faster than the front, then the hydraulic coupler engages the front driveshaft.
Thanks for the advice. Ya I will have to reconsider that. Does the 247 have any problems like the ZJ 249 did? VIC Coupler issues?

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Thanks for the advice. Ya I will have to reconsider that. Does the 247 have any problems like the ZJ 249 did? VIC Coupler issues?
It's not a sealed unit like the 249 used, which means the fluid in the t-case is what operates it. This is good and bad.

The good is that it won't fail due to the fluid inside the coupler failing despite otherwise maintaining the t-case like in the 249.

The bad is that it's fairly maintenance sensitive, meaning timely fluid changes and use of the correct, dealer only supplied fluid is a must.

I actually like the 247 when it's in good working order, it has a quick reaction time and offers a a pretty seamless driving experience when on road conditions are less than ideal (heavy snow, rain, etc.). The downside is that typically the larger in tire size you go the slower the reaction time of the t-case as it will take more revolutions of the rear wheels spinning to force the t-case to transfer power to the front wheels. If the 245/65/17 size is you end goal you'll likely notice little to no change in t-case performance.
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The coupler inside the 247 is quite similar in operation to the Vari-loks inside your axles. When the rear starts to go faster than the front then the gerotor pump applies pressure to the clutch pack that then applies power to the front. In 4Lo the coupler is locked out and both driveshafts are locked together for maximum traction.

One VERY important thing to know about the NP247 (and the Vari-lok axles) is that you must keep all of the tires the same size. This includes the spare and the owners manual says to keep all 5 tires in rotation, to keep them all in the same wear range (and thus, rolling diameter). Mismatches will cause the Vari-lok and/or t-case coupler to be trying to engage all the time, doing their best to keep everything rotating at the same speed. This will wear out the clutches quite quickly.
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This answered my questions too. I was thinking about swapping my transfer case, now Iím going to just keep changing the fluid.


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Well, for the sake of documenting upgrades (and it personally helps me keep a tally of what it is costing) I'll be posting the upgrades as they come.

Today I changed the K&N Air Filter. I have no idea how many miles were on the old one, but it was so old it had tiny holes in the folded parts of the fins. I know K&N has a warranty 10 years or a million miles, but this filter may have actually been 10 years old so I just decided to buy another for $60.

Today I oiled and installed a new one.


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Yesterday I installed the RC Front .75 spacer to level out the front (I have an upcountry suspension already). Took me about 30min to do. No spring compressors were needed. Now both fenders are the same height at 33in from the ground. Barely noticeable to the eye, but was exactly what I needed for the tape - measurements to add up. Off to a slow start, but making progress day by day.



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Got the 255/65R17 tires installed today. This is a 2004 Limited WJ with an upcountry plus the RC .75 front spacer on JK Rubicons Wheels.


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Just cut open my system on my 2004 WJ 4.7 and saw that the actuator doors are NOT broken. My passenger blend door was also stuck down. The clicking I heard it seems is the (rear actuator) passenger actuator motor.. it seems to be stripped..

I'm going a little getto here. So.... I disabled the passenger actuator (cut a wire to that motor) and fused the two blend doors together to now work as a single zone ran off the driverside actuator.



If you look close you can see the hole I drilled and put in a pin, then epoxied it together. Now they will function as one unit. Crossing my fingers that this works.

Now my setup is single zone and I didn't need to pull my dash out.
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I just did this fix on my 2004 WJ 4.7.

The other day I removed my Blower motor and noticed my recic door was broken but the drive motor was still good.

1) I cut out the grill behind the glove box and removed the blower motor

2) I pulled out the Recirc door (this is a pain) and glued / epoxied the broken pieces of the shaft back on and sleeved it (Let dry overnight)

3) Then I got a metal plate and screws and set it up the plate before I cut.

4) cut the door in half and screw on half of the plate.

5) make sure your actuator motor is in a good position. Took me a couple trys of unplugging my battery. Unpluigging the battery will stop the Actuator motor where you want it.

6) put the first half up and slide it onto the motor pin.

7) put the second plate up into place and get a short screwdriver to screw in the last two remaining screws

8) test and reassemble.









Everything works great and I have a functioning Recirc Door!

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I'm working on getting my wheel wells inside the front bumper cleared out so tires can stuff better so I moved my horns up inside of the grill area..
Because I mounted them to the plastic..I needed to ground the horn stud to the frame and also extend both horn wires about 12inches


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Got these in the mail today... Rugged Ridge Floor Liners.

Some reason when I bought my Jeep, there were no mats.

These ought to do just fine for camping adventures and mud.

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Got these in the mail today... Rugged Ridge Floor Liners.

Some reason when I bought my Jeep, there were no mats.

These ought to do just fine for camping adventures and mud.



Look great.. less expensive than others?


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I got them on Ebay for $108 FREE SHIPPING. They were the cheapest floor liners I could find that custom fit the front area. The set came with both front and rears.

https://ebay.us/YbMD8f

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