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post #1 of 9 Old 09-21-2019, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
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2004 GC electrical issue

suddenly, after closing any door, the interior lights never go off.
I have to turn the stalk and dim down to turn off (including dash lights). But, as soon as a door is opened / closed, the interior lights stay on again.

Passenger side window and door locks do not work. From the driver door master switch, or the passenger door switches.

Seemed to happen at he same time
is the power from driver door not feeding the passenger switches?
is the driver door interior light switch stuck open?

wiring to the driver door?

help!


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post #2 of 9 Old 09-21-2019, 07:58 AM
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Safe bet it's broken wires in the door jamb. You can pull the boot back and see them pretty easily. Common issue and there are a number of threads dealing with it in here from diagnosis to a few different ways of repairing (repair in the boot versus pulling all new wires through)


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Safe bet it's broken wires in the door jamb. You can pull the boot back and see them pretty easily. Common issue and there are a number of threads dealing with it in here from diagnosis to a few different ways of repairing (repair in the boot versus pulling all new wires through)


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ok, that was my first thought, broken wires - but the boot looks tight and mint.
I'll start there. thanks!

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probably a wire in the door as stated but is it possible one of your door pressure switches is malfunctioning? You might try holding them down with your hand and see if any of them make any difference.
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post #5 of 9 Old 09-21-2019, 03:46 PM
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suddenly, after closing any door, the interior lights never go off.
I have to turn the stalk and dim down to turn off (including dash lights). But, as soon as a door is opened / closed, the interior lights stay on again.

Passenger side window and door locks do not work. From the driver door master switch, or the passenger door switches.

Seemed to happen at he same time
is the power from driver door not feeding the passenger switches?
is the driver door interior light switch stuck open?

wiring to the driver door?

help!

Look for a broken green wire with a stripe. Peeling the boot back is a PITA, reinstalling it is a whole new challenge in itself. It will be between your driver side door and jamb. Have some crimp on connectors and some black electrical tape. And, you're gonna need a decent set of wire strippers. When you fix that wire, your problems will be solved, but look for others in that harness as well. I've fixed three different wires in that boot on our '04 WJ alone....

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Look for a broken green wire with a stripe. Peeling the boot back is a PITA, reinstalling it is a whole new challenge in itself. It will be between your driver side door and jamb. Have some crimp on connectors and some black electrical tape. And, you're gonna need a decent set of wire strippers. When you fix that wire, your problems will be solved, but look for others in that harness as well. I've fixed three different wires in that boot on our '04 WJ alone....
wow, now that's some detail info!

I'll post up what we find in that booty.
what about razoring an access slit length wise, and weather silicone back together?

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I fixed a broken ground wire in the driver's side boot last week.

After lengthy reading and research on this forum I used a combination of ideas put forth by forum members.

I chose to take off the driver's door panel and remove the speaker which allows access to the door side of the boot.
I also removed the driver's kick panel allowing access to the body side of the boot. I removed that wire loom from a 'securing point' <driver inside left> allowing enough slack in the wires to give some working room once pulled outside the body side.
I then used a zip tie to collapse and hold the boot while I soldered the wires back together.

To be honest, the boot was not that difficult to secure back to the door or the body due to the access allowed by the removed parts.


I WOULD NOT slit the boot and attempt to silicon it back together, but that's just my opinion.

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I fixed a broken ground wire in the driver's side boot last week.

After lengthy reading and research on this forum I used a combination of ideas put forth by forum members.

I chose to take off the driver's door panel and remove the speaker which allows access to the door side of the boot.
I also removed the driver's kick panel allowing access to the body side of the boot. I removed that wire loom from a 'securing point' <driver inside left> allowing enough slack in the wires to give some working room once pulled outside the body side.
I then used a zip tie to collapse and hold the boot while I soldered the wires back together.

To be honest, the boot was not that difficult to secure back to the door or the body due to the access allowed by the removed parts.


I WOULD NOT slit the boot and attempt to silicon it back together, but that's just my opinion.
^ me neither, I was drinking

I had the door panel off already, had a rattle, a clip and spot weld had come loose.
do you remember what wire - or did you pin them out? or just look for a beak?
I'll dig into that now that everyone agrees it's the hot spot.
It might be a few days before time allows, but I'll post up results. many thanks!

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post #9 of 9 Old 09-22-2019, 11:40 AM
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Once you take a good look at the wires running thru the boot, you will no doubt see the culprit. My ground wire shielding was compromised and the copper wire was readily visible. It just depended on how I had the door positioned as to whether the ground was actually making contact at the broken point.
Just for curiosity's sake, I physically felt each wire through its length to see if there might be any other issues. I found none, however, others haven't found multiple wires compromised in that bundle.
Take your time, drink a few <more> beers and get back to us with your findings/results.
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