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post #1 of 47 Old 03-27-2020, 09:22 PM Thread Starter
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Hey hows it going. I am new to this forum. I just picked up a 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4. runs real great and seems to have no mechanical problems. when driving i heard it rubbing on the left side and saw that the tire was moved up in the wheel well and was rubbing when turning. I checked the other side and it seemed to be in the right place. there is no camber and it doesn't wobble when it is moving and all body lines look to be straight and even. Havent got a chance to get under it but from what i see it looks all straight. any ideas as to what is off?

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post #2 of 47 Old 03-27-2020, 10:49 PM
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If you have a Firestone auto center near you they only charge $10! to put it up on the lift and diagnose / test drive etc....of course they are hoping you will give them the repair work but do not pressure you... my local Firestone HATES ME! I have them diagnose everything on my WJ and Explorer then do the work myself...I even borrow (odd-ball) tools from one of their mechanics !
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post #3 of 47 Old 03-27-2020, 10:57 PM
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Something looks off on the left front for sure. Need to get that up in the air, and double check those control arms. Axle looks to far forward....

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Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. Ended up being a rusted spring perch that collapsed.
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post #5 of 47 Old 03-28-2020, 06:11 AM
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Hey hows it going. I am new to this forum. I just picked up a 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4. runs real great and seems to have no mechanical problems. when driving i heard it rubbing on the left side and saw that the tire was moved up in the wheel well and was rubbing when turning. I checked the other side and it seemed to be in the right place. there is no camber and it doesn't wobble when it is moving and all body lines look to be straight and even. Havent got a chance to get under it but from what i see it looks all straight. any ideas as to what is off?
Most likely the spring or something to do with the spring. It controls your height. First thing I did on my wj, other than getting it running, was the springs. Makes a huge difference. Less squeaks, even ride height. Not a difficult job unless the perches are rotted.
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post #6 of 47 Old 03-28-2020, 06:34 AM
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Even after doing my spring perches, my passenger front tire was closer to the front fender/bumper than the driver side. I ended up doing the control arms and bushings. Overall they weren’t too bad with the exception of the driver side upper bushing on the axle side. This one was blown out. How big are your tires?
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post #7 of 47 Old 03-28-2020, 06:38 AM
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before we get started with repairs-
driver door sill will have a tire wheel size decal, did you check that and see if correct tires?
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When I see the price of OEM I think aftermarket.
When I see the quality of aftermarket I think OEM.
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before we get started with repairs-
driver door sill will have a tire wheel size decal, did you check that and see if correct tires?
I checked and the tires are to spec they are 245/70/16 and from what i was able to find online for the Laredo that is the correct size.
So you guys are thinking it is most likely control arms or something to do with the springs? i have it sitting somewhere and am cautious to drive it home(about 10 miles)
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post #9 of 47 Old 03-28-2020, 01:53 PM
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Damn why is it never easy simple..

As suggested insp upper spring receiver adn
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Do you guys think it is safe to drive those 10 miles or should i get it towed.
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Is it rubbing all the time or when you backup. Or turn the steering wheel a certain way. Are the coil springs pretty much vertical and do look in place especially at the bottom?
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Spyder62 can you add a picture of the top spring seat, dark and partially obstructed but maybe.

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post #13 of 47 Old 03-28-2020, 06:24 PM
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Not sure if I have one. I’ll check. I’ve never heard of an upper perch problem, but I guess it’s possible. I can’t believe 29” tires are filling up the wheel well as much as they are. My issue was only noticeable after putting 32’s on it . And it drove fine.
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Is it rubbing all the time or when you backup. Or turn the steering wheel a certain way. Are the coil springs pretty much vertical and do look in place especially at the bottom?
it rubs when i turn and when going straight the plastic in the wheel well is a little lose so it bounces off of it. i feel like i can zip tie it to hold back. I will look at the springs and send pictures when i go to get it tomorrow.
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Mine was off front to back for awhile and I never had death wobble. I believe this was due to the control arm bushings...When I lifted mine I noticed the bottom perches were really bad . I put it back together and ordered new perches . It seemed fine till I got on it some,(love the HO)and heard a pop. The bottom of the spring moved a little but it made me paranoid and I shut her down. I was a little scared removing the driver spring not knowing if it would pop out and hit me,but it was fine. I’m one that takes chances.ive had a upper ball joint come apart and my front wheel flop. Another time on my old GTO convertible the front wheel came off after leaving the bar . So I feel kind of battle tested. Did it get bad all at once? If so I might be a little more hesitant to drive it. If I could stay off the highway and hit the backroads and take my time I’d probably give it a shot. Give it a look tomorrow in the daylight
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