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post #3481 of 3535 Old 01-05-2020, 08:10 PM
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Thanks, appreciate the quick reply! I was considering the DuraTrac's because I'd really like a more aggressive look, is there a particular reason you're moving away from them?

Of note, I have previously run BFG M/T KM2's on my other WK2 Trailhawk, and while noisier and rougher it didn't bother me that much, but those were load range C, not E.
Not my personal experience, but one of my friends has them and loved them for a while. His complaint now is that the noise is getting worse the more they wear. He tows a 5th wheel, so his are definitely LT (if they even make a P version).


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post #3482 of 3535 Old 01-06-2020, 11:16 AM
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The road noise has gotten pretty unbearable in the GC - son suggested I rotate - they are K2's and look like they have good tread, but must have around 35-40k on them?


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My experience is that you have to routinely rotate them, even at 5000 mile intervals, to keep the blocks from feathering and wearing unevenly. Once they start to get noisy its too late. There is no way to correct it beside shaving off tread or to replace them.

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post #3484 of 3535 Old 01-06-2020, 11:29 AM
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yeah, I had them rotated early on, and then moved across country and just haven't. I felt that might be the case.

Also, and besides the point, since forever I have a slow leak front left and if driving long distances, no leak, if sitting for a day or two, it loses several pounds
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post #3485 of 3535 Old 01-17-2020, 07:13 PM
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Spare tire size for 275/55 R20 tire upgrade

Like many here who upsized their WK2 tires on the 20" wheels, I went with the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s. I've been very happy with them - only a modest hit to mileage (~10% maybe?) and a small amount of additional road noise. This is outweighed by the much better ride and grip. Even though they are not 3MS rated, they do well in the few inches of snow/ice I have been driving in here in in the Northeast. Not sure about deep snow, if I find out I'll update the thread. They're great in the wet as well.

While the forum helped to decide on the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s in 275/55R20, it was a real challenge finding an AT tire that matched them in circumference AND fit in the spare tire well. I can say definitively for the benefit of all that I have figured it out: Kumho Road Venture AT51 in 255/70R18 (stock spare rim). It fits in the stock well w/plastic liner, the wing nut to bolt it down fits, and you can put the foam holder for all the jack equipment in and close + latch the lid. The only thing that won't fit is the plastic bins that go on the sides.

I can also say definitively that a Falken Wildpeak AT3 in 255/70R18 DOES NOT allow you to close the lid - it sits about 1" proud. This is because it has pretty aggressive ribbing on the sidewall, plus it is a little bit larger in all dimensions than the Kumho. Terra Grapplers are 652 revs per mile and the Kumhos are 647, which is under 1% difference (.77 to be exact - the difference between the stock tires and stock spare is ~.3 so barely more than factory tolerance). They also pass the eyeball test when I put the Kumho next to them once it was mounted on the spare rim.

I feel great about it because the Kumho only cost me $110 at the time I bought it - I was trying hard not to get spendy on the spare, and for me $110 was reasonable to have a matching-circumference AT from a respectable brand. Hope this helps others thinking about doing the upgrade to larger tires.

Pics of the car with the new skins (both photos with QL at normal ride height). The snow one was an icy hill that the Jeep was happy to climb, but as soon as I tried to put it in park the whole car would slide down hill with the wheels locked and I could barely stand when I got out of the car - man the 4WD is good!


Links to tire spec for comparison:
Terra Grappler G2s: https://tiresize.com/tires/Nitto/Ter...-275-55R20.htm
Road Venture AT51: https://tiresize.com/tires/Kumho/Roa...-255-70R18.htm
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post #3486 of 3535 Old 01-27-2020, 12:49 PM
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Like many here who upsized their WK2 tires on the 20" wheels, I went with the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s. I've been very happy with them - only a modest hit to mileage (~10% maybe?) and a small amount of additional road noise. This is outweighed by the much better ride and grip. Even though they are not 3MS rated, they do well in the few inches of snow/ice I have been driving in here in in the Northeast. Not sure about deep snow, if I find out I'll update the thread. They're great in the wet as well.

While the forum helped to decide on the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s in 275/55R20, it was a real challenge finding an AT tire that matched them in circumference AND fit in the spare tire well. I can say definitively for the benefit of all that I have figured it out: Kumho Road Venture AT51 in 255/70R18 (stock spare rim). It fits in the stock well w/plastic liner, the wing nut to bolt it down fits, and you can put the foam holder for all the jack equipment in and close + latch the lid. The only thing that won't fit is the plastic bins that go on the sides.

I can also say definitively that a Falken Wildpeak AT3 in 255/70R18 DOES NOT allow you to close the lid - it sits about 1" proud. This is because it has pretty aggressive ribbing on the sidewall, plus it is a little bit larger in all dimensions than the Kumho. Terra Grapplers are 652 revs per mile and the Kumhos are 647, which is under 1% difference (.77 to be exact - the difference between the stock tires and stock spare is ~.3 so barely more than factory tolerance). They also pass the eyeball test when I put the Kumho next to them once it was mounted on the spare rim.

I feel great about it because the Kumho only cost me $110 at the time I bought it - I was trying hard not to get spendy on the spare, and for me $110 was reasonable to have a matching-circumference AT from a respectable brand. Hope this helps others thinking about doing the upgrade to larger tires.

Pics of the car with the new skins (both photos with QL at normal ride height). The snow one was an icy hill that the Jeep was happy to climb, but as soon as I tried to put it in park the whole car would slide down hill with the wheels locked and I could barely stand when I got out of the car - man the 4WD is good!
Looks good and great info! I have a set of 18 inch Jeep Wrangler rims (the 7 spoke, black ones from the Sahara Altitude a few years back) and I'm considering going to a 255/70/18 all the way around on those rims but was worried about being able to close the spare hatch. Looks like I'll be OK if I keep the spare as something not that aggressive in that size, like maybe the Bridgestone AT tires that come on the Sahara. I can find those around me for about 20 bucks a tire because so many people have taking them off Wranglers.
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post #3487 of 3535 Old 02-05-2020, 10:26 AM
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Ok, I tried to search around, but I only found something on wrangler lugs vs WK2. I just picked up a set of SRT reps, and am looking for the best option for black lug nuts, preferably locking in some manner.

Does anyone have any recommendations or specs on what size/thread/brand to go with?

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post #3488 of 3535 Old 02-06-2020, 04:46 AM
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2011 OEM 18" wheels on 2017 Summit?

Does anyone know if a set of 18" OEM wheels from a 2011 GC WK2 (specs 8x18 / ET56.4 / 5x127 / 71.5 hub bore) will fit my 2017 5.7 Summit with the same wheel specs? Will there be a brake clearance issue? I don't know if the 2011 wheels came off a 3.6 or a 5.7.
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post #3489 of 3535 Old 02-06-2020, 07:13 AM
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Will fit perfectly. All OEM 18 and 20 inch wheels/tire fit all models. If you have HD brakes, 17 inch wheels probably won't fit. They will fit all WK2s with standard duty brakes.

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Awesome! Thanks ColdCase!

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post #3491 of 3535 Old 02-08-2020, 03:23 PM
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Found someone nearby with five takeoff 18 inch wheels from a 2019 Sahara JL. The Bridgestone All Terrains only have 700 miles on them and I can likely get all five wheels and tires for 300 bucks. My question is this, I know the part number for the TPMS sensors shows as the same part, but can I simply swap out my WK2 wheels with these 2019 JL wheels and it will read the sensors on its own? Or will I have to reprogram something?

(I actually have a separate set of wheels I'm going to use, but if I can get these take offs and get five basically new tires and the TPMS sensors for that amount of money I'll do that. Just want to make sure the TPMS sensors will work, even if I have to take some extra step.)
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What year is the WK2 ?, the JLs should work it its a 2019. They changed sensors in 2016 I think, but there has been some discussion about 2020s.

Most shops are reluctant to pull TPMSs from one wheel and put them in another as they can easily break. New OEM sensors are about $60 a set off ebay.

There is no reprograming required. The Jeep will discover and remember the news sensors with a few miles of driving.

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Quiet tires for my 19 Grand Cherokee Overland

So I just bought a used 2019 GC Overland with 27.000 miles on it. The tires on it are surprisingly very worn already! So come spring I will be looking for tires! I want to stay stock diameter ,but would like a all terrain tire ( we live in Michigan and see a fair amount of snow) I drive mostly on the street , but occasionally off road. My number one priority is I want a QUIET TIRE. looking for suggestions and advise on your experiences !
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Quiet and All Terrain tire is an oxymoron, but there are quieter ones. Generally none are as quiet as a highway tire or all season. I'd start with the tire rack or discounttiredirect reviews of all terrains and look at those rated the quietest. They don't sell a couple of the tires mentioned here, however.

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So I just bought a used 2019 GC Overland with 27.000 miles on it. The tires on it are surprisingly very worn already! So come spring I will be looking for tires! I want to stay stock diameter ,but would like a all terrain tire ( we live in Michigan and see a fair amount of snow) I drive mostly on the street , but occasionally off road. My number one priority is I want a QUIET TIRE. looking for suggestions and advise on your experiences !


Look at Yokohama GO15ís or Cooper at3 4s for at tires. But if most of your tme is spent on road Michelin defender ltx would work great. Put some on my 16 couple months ago awesome tire.


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