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post #1 of 11 Old 12-01-2019, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
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I’m looking for the towing hitch bolt torque specs please? I’m trying a jump on next years camping season as I might need to use my wife’s WK2 on one or two trips.

Background: we had a 2018 Jayco X17Z which we towed with my wife’s grand Cherokee until I got my 2019 Ram 1500 classic which became the primary tow vehicle. The trailer weighed 3950lbs fully loaded and 18.5 feet long. About a month ago we traded our X17Z for a Jayco X23B which is about 5,000lbs loaded and 24 feet long.

The issue is we didn’t think we were going to upgrade out trailer so fast RV newbie mistake, they always say buy your 2nd trailer first, lesson learned. My Ram has a quad cab which the room in the back is not too spacious. I have two kids still in their car seats (6 & 4) but we recently added a dog and would like to take him on 1 or 2 trips next year and the Ram has no where safe to put him (60lbs). So we were thinking of using my wife’s WK2 for the trips we would like to take him on. I want to get all the maintenance done this winter (fluids and checking bolts etc.) we bought it new in 2011 and it only has 45k on it, garage kept.

The Ram is a lease I’m thinking g I should of went with a Durango Hemi instead of the Ram.

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post #2 of 11 Old 12-01-2019, 01:19 PM
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The bolts to the frame?

Should be in the kit directions you got. I'd use anti-seize and or grease on most of the bolts. Seen rectangular receiver get rusted in place!

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...446514&jsn=402

Was going to get this unit. 126 ft-lbs for the 4 bolts. I was going to replace the bolts with hardened cap screws but the M14 bolts are really hard to find.
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post #3 of 11 Old 12-07-2019, 05:33 AM
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Nice set up there. Good luck with the new camper. I can't speak to your question, you don't say what hitch you have. Is it factory or aftermarket?
Another thing to look at is the gearing of your GC. I have a Summit with a Hemi and 3.09 gears. It's a blast to drive by itself. It can pull, easily, a TT heavier than yours. One thing is towing a lot of hilly / mountainous terrain. The shifting to lower gears to pull up a hill will cause concern. Not only the roar of the engine at high RPM but the temperatures of the engine and transmission. After two seasons which I pretty much stayed to the coast because it's flat I decided to get a new tow vehicle rather than continue to strain my GC. Of course, with lessons learned, a new tow vehicle led to an upgrade of the camper.
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post #4 of 11 Old 12-08-2019, 06:01 AM Thread Starter
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It’s a a factory hitch set-up, the reason for my inquiry is I like to aide on the side of caution and ensure everything is in tip top shape when hauling the trailer with my family. My only concern that runs through my head is the length of the new trailer (25ft coupler to bumper) vs the wheelbase of the WK2. Ive been researching some hitches that actually eliminate sway completely but they are big $$$$$. My 19 Ram 1500 with the Pentastar motor toes the trailer very well but that is a 140” wheelbase compared to a 115”, just no where to put the family with the dog in the Ram unless I buy a shell for the pickup bed and a crate for him to stay in.
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Yeah lots of reports here of 20+ foot trailers throwing the WK2 around in the wind or turbulence, not a pleasant drive. A WDH with sway control is a must, but then instead of sway you just jump from lane to lane as a unit . I exaggerate of course. Take is slow, stay alert, drive the back roads when you can and you will be OK. Power is seldom an issue with V8 or diesel. The V6 can handle it but more slowly on long grades, forget about passing. The V6 transmission of that era doesn't tow well. The V6 of that era has a 5000 pound rating, the V8 has a 7200 pound rating.

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Its a a factory hitch set-up, the reason for my inquiry is I like to aide on the side of caution and ensure everything is in tip top shape when hauling the trailer with my family. My only concern that runs through my head is the length of the new trailer (25ft coupler to bumper) vs the wheelbase of the WK2. Ive been researching some hitches that actually eliminate sway completely but they are big $$$$$. My 19 Ram 1500 with the Pentastar motor toes the trailer very well but that is a 140 wheelbase compared to a 115, just no where to put the family with the dog in the Ram unless I buy a shell for the pickup bed and a crate for him to stay in.
My Flagstaff that I referenced above was 29'-8" hitch to bumper. I was able to tune the loading and sway with an Equalizer WDH. I had it so it was very minimal sway from trucks passing. The shorter wheelbase can be a blessing with maneuverability. I discovered that when I got the PU truck and tried to back into it's parking spot.
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You might find the thread below useful.

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309...e-4x4-4363121/

1971 Jeep CJ5 - 2010 Jeep JK Wrangler Unlimited - 2011 Jeep Overland 5.7 Hemi
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post #8 of 11 Old 12-09-2019, 07:04 AM
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To eliminate the sway add a Friction Anti-Sway Bar to you WDH. I towed an enclosed 24 ft enclosed car trailer with a 116" wheelbase Yukon for many years with that set up and did not have any problems being passed by trucks on the interstate. My friend had an identical set up pulled by a 142" Ford Excursion Diesel and the first time we were going to an event he encountered sway problems with his trailer. When we reached our destination he immediately added the sway bar to his trailer.
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post #9 of 11 Old 12-15-2019, 02:40 PM
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I tow a 2018 Starcraft Comet Extreme 17UDS. 3800 pounds fully loaded, approximately 21.1 feet long hitch to rear bumper. A number of similar models are now available from Starcraft, Jayco, Rpod, and Winnebago. My 2011 Grand Cherokee has the 5.7L hemi and factory tow package.

I do use a WDH with sway control. On the freeway in a strong wind and being passed by semis I do keep both hands on the wheel. In those worse case conditions a longer wheelbase would be more comfortable.
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post #10 of 11 Old 12-18-2019, 09:08 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you everyone for their comments! As much as I hate to do this but I think I’m going to trade on my 2019 Ram for a Hemi Durango V8, it suits my family towing needs better.
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post #11 of 11 Old 12-19-2019, 11:16 AM
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A little more wheelbase and vehicle length, along with the Hemi, does sound like a better fit in your case.

Bob N. 2011 Grand Cherokee Overland 5.7L, 1999 Cherokee XJ 4.0L (off-road enhanced)
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