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post #1 of 7 Old 02-24-2020, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
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JGC RV Toad Q

I'm looking for a vehicle to tow behind my RV.

I'm looking at a 2012 JGC with a Hemi that has Quadra-TracK II.
It's priced attractively, but its a few hundred miles away -- not like I can easily run over there and check.
And its not at a Jeep Dealership, so asking doesn't help.

According to the images.goodsam.com/newmotorhome/towguides/DinghyGuide2011.pdf
for the 2011,
"Only 4WD vehicles equipped with Quadra-Trac II or Quadra-Drive II systems are towable. Turn ignition switch to ON/RUN position, but don’t start engine. Press and hold brake pedal, shift into NEUTRAL. Press and hold recessed transfer case NEUTRAL button for 4 seconds, until light behind NEUTRAL symbol starts to blink, indicating shift in progress. Light will stop blinking when the shift to NEUTRAL is complete. Start engine. Shift into REVERSE. Release brake pedal for 5 seconds. Turn engine off and leave ignition switch in unlocked OFF position. Firmly apply parking brake. Shift transmission into PARK. Hook up the vehicle to the tow bar. Release parking brake. Dis- connect negative battery ca- ble and secure it away from the negative battery post."

But the 2012 says
images.goodsam.com/newmotorhome/towguides/DinghyGuide2012.pdf

"Only 4WD vehicles equipped with Quadra-Trac II (V-6 models) and Quadra- Drive II systems (V-8 models) are towable. Press brake pedal, turn ignition key on, engine off, shift transmission into NEUTRAL, shift transfer case into NEUTRAL, start engine, shift transmission into DRIVE, release brake pedal, shut engine off, shift transmission to PARK."

So the Hemi based one for 2012 seems to require Quadra- Drive II.

Is there a more definitive source of information? Did enough change in 2012 that negated the 2011 information?

thanks,

Mike

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post #2 of 7 Old 02-24-2020, 02:32 PM
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I believe the wording in those quotes is just a reference to which options were available instead of any limitations regarding towing. I'm pretty sure you couldn't get the Quadra Drive II without also getting the bigger engine. I do not believe this affects the ability to tow behind a vehicle.

I can only base this on the fact that I have a 2012 with the Hemi and Quadra TRAC II, and that my manual states the exact thing as your quote does above.




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This is what the 2012 Manual says. You have to use a the key not the stop start button and use a pen to press the hidden button. Sounds complicated. I would also be skeptical about disconnecting the battery, I would check with a dealer or Jeep before you did this.

Have you ever considered a Wrangler, the older ones had a simple mechanical lever on the transfer box to select neutral. That's why you see so many behind RVs.
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Lots of folks tow their WK2 behind motor homes.

There are two transfer cases, QTI and QTII. Only the QTII case has a neutral position and therefore only WK2s equipped with QTII can be towed. QTII is standard on Limited and above regardless of engine. Entry level Laredos have QTI but ones the all weather option package or V8s have QTII. All V8s have QTII.

Don't worry about QD as thats just another options on top of the QTII transfer case. All WK2s with QD will have the QTII case with neutral.

SRTs may work differently. I don't think there are variations in export models.

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This is what the 2012 Manual says. You have to use a the key not the stop start button and use a pen to press the hidden button. Sounds complicated. I would also be skeptical about disconnecting the battery, I would check with a dealer or Jeep before you did this.

Have you ever considered a Wrangler, the older ones had a simple mechanical lever on the transfer box to select neutral. That's why you see so many behind RVs.
Daughter has a Wrangler -- and we do Tow it behind the RV, but it's not the vehicle my wife wants for a daily driver.

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Lots of folks tow their WK2 behind motor homes.

There are two transfer cases, QTI and QTII. Only the QTII case has a neutral position and therefore only WK2s equipped with QTII can be towed. QTII is standard on Limited and above regardless of engine. Entry level Laredos have QTI but ones the all weather option package or V8s have QTII. All V8s have QTII.

Don't worry about QD as thats just another options on top of the QTII transfer case. All WK2s with QD will have the QTII case with neutral.

SRTs may work differently. I don't think there are variations in export models.

I have been also considering the 2014+ Diesels... and they have another confusing wording

"Only 4WD vehicles equipped with Quadra-Trac II and Quadra-Drive II systems are towable. Transfer case must be shifted into Neutral and transmission must be in Park. See owner’s manual for details."

Does that mean you have to have both configurations -- or should that have been an "OR" -- technically Drive II means you have Trac II, but still the right terminology if Quadra Trac II is sufficient is OR. But I don't know.
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The wording is clear as mud. Both QTII and QD WK2s have the transfer-case neutral position. The base Laredo QTI does not have a transfer-case with a neutral position. Limiteds and higher have the neutral position as standard.

You may be overthinking it a bit as you simply need a WK2 that has a transfer-case with a neutral position. You may be able to find more detailed technical info in the FAQ if interested.

Visually, if the vehicle has a rotary terrain selector on the center console, it will also have a neutral button and would therefore be towable.
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