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post #16 of 37 Old 01-07-2021, 02:12 PM
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Yes it will...

They specially state this is the Grand Cherokee L

Hence the L for long wheel base.

No different than the Escalade ESV or Yukon XL
I thought the L was for it will be the new WL instead of WK, I could be wrong though. From what I gather, they will all be the same length, but they will offer one with 3rd row seating and one with only 2 rows.


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post #17 of 37 Old 01-07-2021, 05:48 PM
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All the so called insider sites are aligned that the 3 row version is likely to be launched 6-12 months ahead of the 2 row.

The three row first sort of makes sense when you see how many Explorers Ford are selling, Maybe Jeep are also trying to get into the Police Patrol car business where you need the extra length to pass the 75mph rear-end impact test.

The interiors look great, I am more interested in the underlying platform.I suspect that Jeep are going to target the upmarket SUV segment and sacrifice off-road capability. This makes business sense as the Wrangler evolves into a more practical daily use off-road capable option.
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Looks like it has gotten too big for my purposes. I have no need for a third row and unless the 2 row is shorter, I'll not be interested it it, even though the interior is really nice.
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THat's my initial thought to, I am trying to decide if I should buy one of the last WK2s or go for the new option, I just don't need 3 rows of seats or that much cargo capacity. Personally one of the reasons I bought the WK2 was because I could buy it without all the screens and complicated controls. Then again I am probably in the minority. I need to work out where the 2021 version was designed, having grown up in Europe and experienced Alfas, Lancias, and Fiats, I have concerns that the WK3 is developed on the Alfa/Fiat platform may not last that long. The really scary scenario would be if the Italians developed the electronics. The Sunroof on my Fiat used to open if you hit a bump in the road and the AC would randomly dump the refrigerant into the cabin and the Dealer said this was expected behavior! Maybe I need to save up some money a get a Wrangler.
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IMO, oink, oink. Third row seating appears close to worthless. Someone with such a need may as well get a van, or a Suburban.

May have to stick with WK2's for a few more years for my purpose... or as some say "You can't take it with you", and plan for a Wrangler Rubicon 392 Hemi in the future!
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As a young family we need all the extra space we can get and having captains chairs makes accessing the third row and even just getting in and out a lot easier.

I think this makes a lot of sense for a family with kids.

We will probably get one after they are a few years old as it saves a lot of money over buying new.
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I thought the L was for it will be the new WL instead of WK, I could be wrong though. From what I gather, they will all be the same length, but they will offer one with 3rd row seating and one with only 2 rows.
I think the "L" is longer wheelbase (and I'll bet the same body/platform) as next Durango. But you can get it with 2 or 3 rows.
Then there will be the "normal" Grand Cherokee like we all have on its updated platform.
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From everything I've read, this is the new GC like it or not. There is no WK2 in its present or even revised form after the 2021 MY.

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Any one know what the underpinnings are on the new JGC-L ?
Are they from the Alpha Romero?
What about the new regular size JGC ?
Are they still using the Mercedes platform?
Looked everywhere and canít find any definitive info.
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From everything I've read, this is the new GC like it or not. There is no WK2 in its present or even revised form after the 2021 MY.
What is posted is the "L" model (WL75); there is a new Grand Cherokee ('22 model - WL74 - two row vs three row) coming out in the late Summer/early Fall.
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Any one know what the underpinnings are on the new JGC-L ?
Are they from the Alpha Romero?
What about the new regular size JGC ?
Are they still using the Mercedes platform?
Looked everywhere and canít find any definitive info.
Thanks.
I've seen articles like this that say that the both WL vehicles will be based on some version of the Alfa Romeo Giorgio platform. I don't think I've seen any direct info from FCA as yet. Mercedes platform will be no more.

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All the so called insider sites are aligned that the 3 row version is likely to be launched 6-12 months ahead of the 2 row.

The three row first sort of makes sense when you see how many Explorers Ford are selling, Maybe Jeep are also trying to get into the Police Patrol car business where you need the extra length to pass the 75mph rear-end impact test.

The interiors look great, I am more interested in the underlying platform.I suspect that Jeep are going to target the upmarket SUV segment and sacrifice off-road capability. This makes business sense as the Wrangler evolves into a more practical daily use off-road capable option.
The Durango is available as a police version. There are some thing I like over the Explorer in police packages. 1st, the Durango fuel. Tank is bigger. The Explorer is police package form is a bit more comfortable when you add a radio stack and computers.

For my personal vehicle I looked at tested both a Grand Cherokee and an Explorer. They tried selling the 3rd row seat. That was not a factor for me. I liked the Explorer but liked the Grand Cherokee more.

Currently my work vehicle is a pickup. Which is nice. However, not the most practical for what I do. I will be turning it in. In the meantime I think they will be issuing me a SUV. Which will either be an Explorer or Durango. Then, ordering me a new ride.

All that rambling, I doubt you will see many of the new Grand Cherokees as police vehicles.
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Well, I just watched it, and I gotta say, I love it.
It said "all new", so I'm guessing it is the WK3? being released in the L version first. The new tech seems amazing, heck wireless Carplay/Android Auto alone will sell a couple. Plus the overhead interior camera for families is cool. I love the HUD, have something similar in our Volvo S90. Plus hands free driving, 2' water fording, over 10" ground clearance, all good stuff. I guess there will only be 2 things wrong with it for me.
Too many of these 2 symbols $ and "
I am with you. I really like this generation. I can do without the L version. However, the third row or a bit more cabin room would be nice.

I will keep my current ride for a while. When it comes time I am fairly certain this is the direction I will head.

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What is posted is the "L" model (WL75); there is a new Grand Cherokee ('22 model - WL74 - two row vs three row) coming out in the late Summer/early Fall.
So as I indicated, this is the new WL GC. The WK2 based on the Mercedes ML is gone. Both the WL74 and WL75 are based on the "Giorgio" platform, same as the Stelvio and Giulia. Sounds like this will be used on several Dodge/Jeep/Chyrsler updates. I'm not sure if that's good or bad at this point.

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The WL74 (Grand Cherokee) is going to be the same size as the WK2. The WL75 (Grand Cherokee L) will be around the size of the Durango.

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The WL74 (Grand Cherokee) is going to be the same size as the WK2. The WL75 (Grand Cherokee L) will be around the size of the Durango.
And I am assuming the 2022 Durango will be the exact same vehicle. I wonder if they will make a Shorter Durango, and a Durango L. Something needs to keep the Dodge name alive some more. And with the 4Xe arriving in almost everything RWD based soon (I assume) that would actually make a nice powertrain. Basically sits between the 2 current HEMIs (5.7/6.4) in performance, and has all the ECO benefits.
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