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post #1 of 16 Old 07-11-2019, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Best TT to pair with 2016 Grand Cherokee High Altitude 4x4

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My vehicle is a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland High Altitude 4x4 3.6L. I bought it brand new in 2016 and it has 67K miles on it now. Of course it has all the factory towing and goodies.

I'm about to retire and travel full time with my sweetie, just the two of us.

Since I already own the Jeep, I'd like to rule in/out towing with it. I've read all sorts of forums that range from "Don't Do It!" to "It will be fine". Who should I believe?

I visited a RV sales lot and the salesman was actually pretty negative about towing with it (for a lot of reasons I've seen in threads), saying I should stay as far below the 6,200 tow rating as possible, under 4,000 lbs loaded, and he showed us some lightweight trailers.

I told him about a 2013 article I saw that paired a Grand Cherokee with a Lance 2185 and he made a scrunchy face and said "that's really pushing it".
Here's the article. The GC was a V8.
https://www.jeep.com/jeep-capabilities/towing.html

I guess I'd like opinions in a thread of my own, for my specific Jeep and situation. Can this jeep handle a trailer nice enought for full time travel?

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post #2 of 16 Old 07-11-2019, 02:45 PM
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I'd be more worried about trailer size and frontal area than weight (as long as you stay within the WK2 tow rating). The WK2 has a relatively short wheel base and can be thrown around by big trailers that act like sails when hit with cross winds and truck turbulence. Can become a tiring tow. A good WDH with sway control mitigates that quite a bit, instead of unnerving swaying you get thrown around as a unit. Lots of folks here tow near the weight limit, the 8 speed transmission makes it more than doable. I'm sure those with more direct experience will jump in soon.

If you stay off interstate highways as much as you can, and stay on back roads you may have a lower stress ride.

Before you take the plunge, rent a equivalent size and weight trailer as the one you like, take it for a ride and see if it could be a problem on long cross country rides (constant correction for wind and passing trucks).

The shorter lighter narrower trailers are best for cross country trips, but not for getting into unimproved camp grounds.

Have fun.
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post #3 of 16 Old 07-11-2019, 03:40 PM
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I have a 17' vintage travel trailer (1968 Aristocrat Land Commander if you want to google how it looks) that weighs about #2400 dry and #3000 fully loaded. I tow it with my 2014 Limited GC (3.6L) with factory tow package all around the states. While the gas mileage definitely isn't as great, it has ZERO issues towing.

As ColdCase said, while it can still do 65 easily with the trailer, it's much less stressful to stay off the highway but often times there's not a better option.

I've had the jeep for 2.5 years and the trailer for a little while now, no issues at all.

I agree with renting first though, go to Outdoorsy (it's a website and app) and rent something close to what you're considering.
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If your going to travel full time I'd suggest selling the jeep and buying a Yukon Denali with a 6.2. No issues towing a travel trailer then. If your only doing small trips the jeep could handle it but long tows are questionable especially if you are going into the mountains.

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post #5 of 16 Old 07-11-2019, 06:56 PM
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A RAM 2500 even better. I had a 2006 maxicab diesel, that would tow a house off its foundation, and the long wheel base made for easy and comfortable tows of big things.... you had to pre-plan your exits from the Walmart parking lot however.

You've seen these threads?

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309...ailer-4337581/

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309...-hemi-4314331/

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309...amper-4280457/

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309...ur-gc-4225250/

There are quite a few others.
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I'd be more worried about trailer size and frontal area than weight (as long as you stay within the WK2 tow rating). The WK2 has a relatively short wheel base and can be thrown around by big trailers that act like sails when hit with cross winds and truck turbulence. Can become a tiring tow. A good WDH with sway control mitigates that quite a bit, instead of unnerving swaying you get thrown around as a unit. Lots of folks here tow near the weight limit, the 8 speed transmission makes it more than doable. I'm sure those with more direct experience will jump in soon.

If you stay off interstate highways as much as you can, and stay on back roads you may have a lower stress ride.

Before you take the plunge, rent a equivalent size and weight trailer as the one you like, take it for a ride and see if it could be a problem on long cross country rides (constant correction for wind and passing trucks).

The shorter lighter narrower trailers are best for cross country trips, but not for getting into unimproved camp grounds.

Have fun.
^ This. I would also add that if you expect to tackle major grades, I would be pretty conservative with your max. load, regardless of the trailer brakes (or lack of).

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Obviously a larger SUV or pick up would be a MUCH easier way to haul anything... that's what their made for. I had an F250 for a few years back in WI for a winter truck and to haul trailers, you barely feel a travel trailer behind it even when running at 70 on the highway.

That said, I love my GC and while it is NOT the best for towing, it does the job quite well if you're comfortable towing trailers and know what you're doing.

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Thanks for all the feedback. I like the idea of renting a similar size TT. Then just taking a real world weekend "out and back" from Austin so I can just know what it feels like to pull something. I suppose I'll visit a local trailer hitch place to ask about the sway bar options first.

I've rented an RV spot in downtown Austin and a friend is loaning us his Arctic Fox 24W so we can actually test living in an RV for extended periods as a "2nd home", as we still have the house, and see how we like it before buying something. That trailer is for sure too big to tow with the GC, but we get to use it free until his next long trip in September.

Thanks for all the feedback.
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I recently bought a 2011 Nomad Joey. It is 27 feet long and weighs 4200 pounds empty. I installed a weight distribution hitch. I have taken 3 trips totaling 250 miles. One day it was windy with stronger gusts. It has handled well so far. I have been driving between 59 and 63 for my initial runs but took it up to 70 once.
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We are so spoiled these days. My folks pulled a 4k boat with this for years! It had a 5 speed manual, and you have to keep it floored in 4th gear to go 50mph. But the truck lasted 20 years with almost 400k miles on it without a major problem! Ahhh, the good old days...
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But man was that an uncomfortable ride , like the old covered wagons days.

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But man was that an uncomfortable ride , like the old covered wagons days.

Haha yeah, my parents rode up front and me and my brothers rode in the bed with a piece of carpet for padding... but it did have a bed topper, for safety of course.
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post #13 of 16 Old 09-20-2019, 11:36 AM
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I'd stay with an 18 footer or smaller because of the V6, and something shaped like an RPOD would be best for aerodynamics. Definitely would need an equalizer hitch. I have an 18 foot Fleetwood that weighs 3800 empty, and it's a night and day difference towing it with my truck and my '13 5.7L.
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I put on 400 miles this week. 200 of them were with sustained 20 mph winds and higher gusts. The 27' travel trailer had no problems.

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post #15 of 16 Old 10-11-2019, 10:08 PM
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LOL!!! When I saw the "TT", first thing that came to my mind was "twin turbos"...

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