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post #1 of 15 Old 07-27-2011, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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TJ or XJ as DD?

So I currently DD a TJ and I'm constantly hating the MPG and lack of cargo space. Don't get me wrong, I love my TJ's simplicity and capability off-road and am very thankful that my dad bought it for me but I hate it being so impractical as a DD and hard on MPG for him. I'd rather him have got something more DD suitable now. So here's the situation: I'm not able to take the top off, take doors off, or lift it thus defeating the purpose of having a TJ. Hell he was even surprised I wanted to take it off-road!!! So would getting a XJ be more DD friendly? I will 99.9% wind up keeping my TJ and loving it for many more years, I just want y'alls opinions.

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TJ: '98 2 door, 2" BB with 31's, 3spd auto, I6, less cargo room
XJ: '97-'01, 4 door, 2" BB with 31's, 4spd auto, I6, more cargo room

I'm also open to any WJ options!


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post #2 of 15 Old 07-28-2011, 01:36 AM
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An XJ is definitely more convenient as a DD. Lots and lots more room to store/carry stuff. A good buddy of mine had one and I was always envious of his cargo space. XJs are a little more aerodynamic so it will also get a little better gas mileage. Like anything though, once you start modding it the mileage will quickly go out the window. I wouldn't buy another vehicle just for the gas mileage though. The money you spent to buy that XJ could have gotten you a lot more gas for the TJ than you would have saved from a 1 or 2 mpg improvement with the XJ.

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If getting better mpg is your top priority either a TJ or XJ would be a good choice.

I had a stock 01 Grand Cherokee with the I6 and did not do that much better on gas then my TJ with 33s.

If more space is what makes the top of the list then the XJ may be a good choice.

If you can swing it keep the TJ and get a beater that gets good mpg. Depending how much you drive it could pay off.

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We use our WJ much more as a DD than my TJ. WJ has more room and rides nicer.
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post #5 of 15 Old 07-28-2011, 09:50 AM
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If you can afford a ZJ or WJ, they have even more comfort and cargo space than an XJ. I think an XJ with a mild lift and tire combo is a great DD, especially for inclement weather. Much better (and cheaper) than a TJ.

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Chances are I'll never get rid of my TJ. I just really love it but even then I still find myself wondering if I made the right choice in getting one. I was originally going to get a WJ but then drove around in my brothers TJ for a couple months and wanted one. Anyway what do ya'll think of no top off, no doors off, and no lift? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a TJ?

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Why can't you take all that stuff off? Parents? Tell them to get a life. If you had a convertible, would they not let you put the top down? I can sort of understand leaving the doors on, just get some half doors instead. But the top off doesn't make it any more unsafe on the road. Get a nice Rock Hard bolt on cage addition if they are that worried about it.

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If you're concerned about gas mileage being affected with the top and doors off your TJ, the answer is that it will be affected, in the negative sense. Running with the top on I average about 14/15 mpg's. With it off I expect more around 9/10 mpg's. The top being taken off affects the aerodynamics somewhat and creates a lot more drag.
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However, I agree with the above post. If you have a TJ and can't take the top off, then why have it? It's well worth the loss in gas mileage.
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post #10 of 15 Old 08-22-2011, 11:50 PM
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Well, anything that says "Jeep" on the hood is going to get about the same mileage, so if that's your primary motivation for the change, you will be disappointed. The TJ is a cool rig, especially for a high school student, but if you aren't enjoying it, then maybe it's time for a change.

I like the "wagons". Compared to a Wrangler, they ride a lot nicer, have the added security of a metal top and glass windows, are generally pretty much water tight, and yeah, hold a lot more gear/people. You can also get into a NICE ZJ for $3k these days that makes a great DD. I got my wife's old ZJ 3 years ago for $2500, put about $500 in parts into it (mostly neglected maintenance), and it has been rock solid ever since. She wound up with a really long commute and wanted a more economical car, so we gave it to my in-laws who fell on some hard times. It's still going great at 220k.

If you're thinking WJ, man I could talk your ear off about WJs.

One final point. You're 16. I've had cars that I said "I'll never get rid of" but if anything is guaranteed in life, it's that there are NO guarantees. Your needs when you are 30 are going to be TOTALLY different than they are now, in ways you can't even imagine yet. I know mine certainly are!


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Well, anything that says "Jeep" on the hood is going to get about the same mileage, so if that's your primary motivation for the change, you will be disappointed. The TJ is a cool rig, especially for a high school student, but if you aren't enjoying it, then maybe it's time for a change.

One final point. You're 16. I've had cars that I said "I'll never get rid of" but if anything is guaranteed in life, it's that there are NO guarantees. Your needs when you are 30 are going to be TOTALLY different than they are now, in ways you can't even imagine yet. I know mine certainly are!
I really really enjoy my Jeep. Most of the time (99%) I love it but sometimes I kinda doubt myself but as of lately I haven't. I get to put the soft top on soon and then comes the 2" RC spacer kit and 31's for a temporary lift.

I only said "I would keep it forever" because I'm very likely going to keep this Jeep well into my 20's.

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First of all, I don't understand why you can't take off the top and doors. Second, why don't you get a job and pay for your own gas? Third, if you're looking for better gas mileage from an XJ, you'll be unpleasantly surprised. My TJ and XJ get basically the same mileage. A lot of the mileage depends on how they are driven.

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If you're concerned about gas mileage being affected with the top and doors off your TJ, the answer is that it will be affected, in the negative sense. Running with the top on I average about 14/15 mpg's. With it off I expect more around 9/10 mpg's. The top being taken off affects the aerodynamics somewhat and creates a lot more drag.
I have found the opposite to be true. My TJ gets better mileage without the top and doors. In high speed highway driving, drag might hurt mileage, but around town, the reduced weight, and not running the A/C, helps mileage.

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I have found the opposite to be true. My TJ gets better mileage without the top and doors. In high speed highway driving, drag might hurt mileage, but around town, the reduced weight, and not running the A/C, helps mileage.
That's true. I do a lot of highway driving, so my statistics are skewed.
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post #15 of 15 Old 08-23-2011, 08:58 PM
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I love taking my top and doors off and hitting the trails. I am kinda in the same boat as you. I have been thinking about selling my mildy built TJ and buying a stock 98-99 XJ. I do have a son though so thats the only reason I might sell my TJ. Hell with my backseat out I can fit camping gear for a whole weekend. Since you dont offroad sell the tj and buy the xj. throw a 2in lift and 31s on it.
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