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post #631 of 805 Old 08-31-2021, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the reply Jeff. So now to just keep on pluggin away at it and I'll be flexin the crap out of the front.


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OK got a shock mounting question for the masses.

So my top mounting location has the bolt for the shocks running inline with the frame. And right now the way I have the mounting tabs set the bolt is also inline with the frame. On a stock TJ the top mount is a stem instead of a eye mount and the bottom is a bar pin that runs inline with the axle instead of like mine are.
So do you need to keep the upper and lower mounting bolts perpendicular with each other? Or could I mount the upper inline with the frame and the lower inline with the axle? Or would this cause damage to the shocks somehow?
I thought the top and bottom bolts were "supposed to be" tangent from each other. Of course that isn't how I built mine either. All of my bolts run parallel with the frame. That is how my mounts were designed by Ballistic Fab... many others are the same way. I don't really think it is that critical. There is plenty of movement in the spherical ends to accommodate the amount of misalignment a shock will see throughout it's travel.
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I thought the top and bottom bolts were "supposed to be" tangent from each other. Of course that isn't how I built mine either. All of my bolts run parallel with the frame. That is how my mounts were designed by Ballistic Fab... many others are the same way. I don't really think it is that critical. There is plenty of movement in the spherical ends to accommodate the amount of misalignment a shock will see throughout it's travel.
Thanks for the reply. Yes it seems most of the mounts are like that from what I've seen. So I'm just gunna run with it. It would just SUCK to bend or break a almost $400 shock.

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A member from the Wrangler TJ forum had suggested that I weld some nuts to the backside of the shock tab since I didn't have much clearance between it and the spring pad. Of course I was looking at it and over thinking the whole thing.



So I dug around in the ton of coffee cans with nuts and bolts and found two nuts the correct size and welded them onto the back of the tabs.



After I got done welding the nuts on I ran a tap thru both of them to make sure the threads didn't get buggered up from the welding.



Once I'd chased the threads on both nut I started to play around with making sure the tabs were positioned just right for the bolt to screw in easily. So I'm still messing around with them but it was time for a break.



So I know what I'm doing first tomorrow and then I'll tack everything together and double check fit.

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Looks like good work. Always a good idea to chase the threads after welding. Iíve learned that already.


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Looks like good work. Always a good idea to chase the threads after welding. Iíve learned that already.


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I'm learning that myself. I've only done this a few times before.

Thanks I'm trying but no expert for sure.

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Went back out and worked on the mounts a little more. I took some bolts that were too long and cut them down so I have the shoulder of the bolt that shock will ride on. Got the tabs setup where I can screw the bolts in by hand.

Drivers side bolt will need to be shortened just a hair or I might just throw a washer on it instead.



Passenger side is better.



So tomorrow morning I'll tack them in place and make sure nothing shifted. Then I can put the shocks back on and start to cycle the suspension. Once I get that all checked out I can finally order the new front control arms.

Wide Open Design builds them out of aluminum and also sells aluminum steering linkage. I've never tried running aluminum drag link or tie rod before and am thinking I might order some just to see how I like it.

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Use a split washer, which you need to keep the bolt from backing out, and that should do it. Maybe have to take just a shade off the bolt.
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Use a split washer, which you need to keep the bolt from backing out, and that should do it. Maybe have to take just a shade off the bolt.
Yep some type of locking washer will be used and of course locktite on the threads too.

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Here is the bolts I shortened up for the lower shock mounts.



Then I tacked the shock tabs on.





Then I mounted the shocks back up to check for proper fit. I have the reservoirs mounted onto the shocks right now just to get them out of the way and not have them hanging around. I don't know if that will be where I leave them or mount them onto the frame.

Passenger side





And the Drivers side



And the lower shock mount bolt. I threw 2 flat washers on for now but will change them out.



The bolts just reach the back of the nut.



Thinking if I made the bolts just a little longer I could stake the threads on the bolts to help them not walk back out.

And now I need to decide if I need/want limiting straps and if I do where and how to mount them. I know I need to use something like a double shear tab.


EDIT: After some discussion over on the Wrangler TJ forum I don't need limiting straps. I'd swore someone had suggested them to me a while but but I could be getting having one if I have driveline bind confused with needed them.
So no limiting straps
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Got to careful of the advice you get sometimes too....

Heck if I listened to Jeff (Nashville TJ) he'd be having me using cross drilled bolts and using safety wire all over my Jeep. Of course he says he was just being sarcastic but who are you gunna believe...
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Just trying to keep you safe, Dude, just trying to keep you safeÖ

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Just trying to keep you safe, Dude, just trying to keep you safeÖ

Good to know I got you lookin out for my safety.

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Well today started off with GOOD intentions and plans to get things ready so I could put my front axle back together. My axle was in bad shape when I had taken it apart from sitting and since I'd buried it in mud right before that everything was rusted. I needed to remove the inner spindle bearings but couldn't get a punch on then due to the design of the spindle. So out came the puller with slide hammer.





First one came out pretty easily.


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Lots of PB Blaster was used on both but the second spindle was not gunna give it up.







So I had to get out the BIB dog and use it to get that bearing out.



Now I should have been paying more attention to the spindles BEFORE I started working on them. One of the spindles has buggered up threads so I'm gunna have to order a new one. And while I probably could have gotten by with only replacing one I went a head and ordered two and I'll have a spare.







Then I started looking at my hub & rotor assemblies and noticed one of them is bent (not round) so I'm gunna need a new one of them also. So yep I ordered two new ones.



So it was an expensive afternoon.

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