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post #961 of 982 Old 06-19-2020, 12:11 PM
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Looking good. I suppose I really need to add to my cage.


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Cage is back in the Jeep. Finally in the home stretch for this tub swap after the rollover.










Next up is primer, paint and install windshield frame, grill, tailgate and rear flares. Then reinstall my air tank and run new rock lights. Then new decals and the tub swap will officially be finished up.

When I was driving it back down to my place I was getting a little hot and the throttle response was weak. So I did plugs and wires on it today and topped off the radiator.

I was going to go for a test drive but I noticed coolant running and spilling all over the floor from underneath the radiator. Pretty sure I have a crack or leak. Ran out of time so Iíll check it out tomorrow.

Not sure what the champion warranty is but if it is cracked Iíll probably just order a new one and deal with the warranty afterward.

My trans also has been getting hot on trails so I think Iím gonna order a new derale cooling pan for it with the sensor bung in the pan. Right now I just have it tied in at the line so I donít think Iím getting a very accurate reading either.

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What trans cooler are you running? I bought a big plate cooler and it seems to keep my 2800 stall with no lock up 700R4 happy so far.


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What trans cooler are you running? I bought a big plate cooler and it seems to keep my 2800 stall with no lock up 700R4 happy so far.


Tru-Cool H7B ENGINE OIL COOLER https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TQ3BG2..._2aX8Eb17C999F

I probably need to upgrade the trans cooler as well. Iím currently just running the stock cooler from the donor truck.

I figured if it kept the transmission cool in the truck, it would be adequate for the Jeep. But at the time didnít really take into consideration crawling at slow speeds with minimal airflow.

Thanks for the recommendation!

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your cage looks great. i really like the color with the black jeep body. did you use a kit to originally make the cage or did you design it all yourself?


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your cage looks great. i really like the color with the black jeep body. did you use a kit to originally make the cage or did you design it all yourself?

Thanks man. This was the old Blue Torch Fab kit. They are no longer in business but the owner now runs Motobilt.

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Well I had an idiot moment. I left the radiator cap off and didn't notice it. When I walked out to my garage, it was just sitting on my shelf. So put that back on and naturally it didn't leak. Took it for a drive and I am still lacking in throttle response in 1st/2nd gear and after that it's fine, not sure why. No leaks at the radiator but Im still pushing 215-220į at idle sitting at lights. When I'm moving, it drops back down to 200-205į so I think its just an airflow issue or I might need to upgrade from the Champion radiator.

My trans cooler is currently mounted in the center of the grill. I went ahead and ordered the cooler that @87TPIYJ recommended as well as the derale cooling pan. When i swap out my grill, I am going to find a better place to mount the new trans cooler and see if that helps with airflow/engine temps.
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Well I had an idiot moment. I left the radiator cap off and didn't notice it. When I walked out to my garage, it was just sitting on my shelf. So put that back on and naturally it didn't leak. Took it for a drive and I am still lacking in throttle response in 1st/2nd gear and after that it's fine, not sure why. No leaks at the radiator but Im still pushing 215-220į at idle sitting at lights. When I'm moving, it drops back down to 200-205į so I think its just an airflow issue or I might need to upgrade from the Champion radiator.

My trans cooler is currently mounted in the center of the grill. I went ahead and ordered the cooler that @87TPIYJ recommended as well as the derale cooling pan. When i swap out my grill, I am going to find a better place to mount the new trans cooler and see if that helps with airflow/engine temps.
My Griffin (2 row x1.25" tubes) is supposed to be delivered tomorrow. Ill let you know how it fairs vs my champion 3 row .67" tubes.
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Derale pan with the cooling tubes showed up. Just waiting on the cooler, should be here later today. Any thoughts on alternative places to mount the cooler vs right in front of the radiator?






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I used to run an electric trans cooler, mounted high tucked flat up under the bed. Itís vulnerable to damage and mud back there, so I build a heavy guard to protect it. It worked well, but it was irritatingly loud.

I ran that setup because I had an intercooler and a power steering cooler mounted in front of the radiator, and had no room for a trans cooler. Now that I donít run the supercharger, I run both a trans cooler and a power steering cooler in front of the radiator, and I like that setup much better. I run the most powerful electric fan I could fit, and despite the massive heat put out by the Hemi, Iíve had no cooling issues.


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The Griffin radiator made not difference. Its something else. Going to look at timing.

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I used to run an electric trans cooler, mounted high tucked flat up under the bed. Itís vulnerable to damage and mud back there, so I build a heavy guard to protect it. It worked well, but it was irritatingly loud.

I ran that setup because I had an intercooler and a power steering cooler mounted in front of the radiator, and had no room for a trans cooler. Now that I donít run the supercharger, I run both a trans cooler and a power steering cooler in front of the radiator, and I like that setup much better. I run the most powerful electric fan I could fit, and despite the massive heat put out by the Hemi, Iíve had no cooling issues.



I thought about mounting it like this but the risk of damage made me thing twice about it.

If I canít get the radiator to keep temps down Iím probably going to try out an e-fan. I like the clutch fan but on crawling trips with any type of incline it just doesnít keep it cool.


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The Griffin radiator made not difference. Its something else. Going to look at timing.

Bummer to hear that. I should know more if clearing the front of the radiator helps keep temps down at idle. But an e-fan is probably in my future.

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I am actually considering going back to mechanical. No efan will ever pull the CFM of mechanical. Iím ok with losing power if it stays cool.
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I am actually considering going back to mechanical. No efan will ever pull the CFM of mechanical. Iím ok with losing power if it stays cool.

Yeah the clutch fan keeps it cool everywhere except in the summer on crawling inclines which is when I need it to keep it cool the most lol.

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Iím probably doing a solid mounted fan like this. It should keep it cool in all cases.


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