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Rapidrob 12-02-2020 03:31 PM

What CB radio seems to hold up the best?
 
I've been out of CB radios for a very long time. My last radio was a Pierce Simpson Panther SSB radio pushing x10 linear amp.( After-burner Plus tube set)

today for my ZJ I was thinking it would be nice to have another CB radio. Where I will be riding there is no Cell service.
I've been looking at two radios for my ZJ since I want the radios small to fit where I want to put them.
1. President Electronics "Bill" FCC..so far this is the smallest radio I've seen for sale. a solid 4 WATT ( not adjustable) radio wit a 6 mile transmission as per Youtube test.
2. Uniden 510 Pro XL which also has good reviews and very inexpensive to purchase.
No idea as to what antenna I will use, magnetic or permanent.
On the P/S Panther for my FJ-40 I used a 1/2 wave stainless steel whip antenna on a spring. It was tuned by me and worked very well.
What are the radios you using that works well, fits the ZJ Jeep and folks can hear you clearly off of your antenna for 2020?

CJ7-Tim 12-02-2020 04:45 PM

CB is still the most common way for trail communication with the people in your group, or people nearby when on the roads. These days there is hardly anyone on CB, and you would be extremely lucky to reach anyone else with emergency communications. With some basic knowledge and few practice tests, you can get your Ham Radio license and communicate from almost anywhere with the right set-up.

Right Channel Radios has good CB buying and installing guides. www.rightchannelradios.com/blogs/learning-center

As in the olden days of CB, cheap radios and cheap antennas are cheap for reason. President and Uniden make good radios. New Cobra radios are not worth the money compared to the old ones. I use Wilson magnet mount antennas and Firestik permanent mount antennas. 1/2 wave whips are annoying, and most 4x4 clubs and organized 4x4 events do not allow them for spectator safety.

4Low2G0 12-03-2020 03:44 PM

What Tim said.

I have a Uniden in the Jeep with the controls in the Mic. so it is easy to remove and stash in the console
and a fire stick antenna tuned by me. This set up works as well as can be expected.

It only gets used on the trail when others have CB.
On the road, not many people on, seems the truckers don't even use it anymore.
I think the Rubber Duck went 10-7 years ago LOL. What chatter I do hear is usually in Spanish

I have considered switching to GMARS. Also We have a pair of hand held FRS radios
we sometimes bring along. Nice for Jeep to Jeep or spotter to Jeep LOL

soberbyker1 12-03-2020 04:56 PM

The Uniden 510xl Pro, or 520xl Pro (a few more features for a couple bucks more) is built like a tank. I have the 520 as a backup at work when I'm in a different tri-axle dump truck. It's great little unit. Pair it with a Little Wil magnetic antenna and you're up and running for not much money.

V8GCZJ 12-03-2020 06:26 PM

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I think the Rubber Duck went 10-7 years ago LOL.

The last time i heard anybody use the 10 codes was watching Smokey And The Bandit. I happen to dig out my old modded ham rig(26-32mhz) And it's nothingness across all of it not even skip. Can hear some CW way off in the ham ban but that's it. I'm surprised that old hammers still use it.

Rapidrob 12-03-2020 10:12 PM

I asked the president of New Mexico's oldest and largest off-roading club and he replied tonight that they do in fact use CB radios to communicate with each other as they ride.

Both hand held and mounted radios.
Thank you for all the replies.....good buddy. Put the petal to the metal and let her roar.....that's a Falcon 214....KHK7093....Out.

CrustySprings 12-04-2020 08:01 AM

While I have a Kenwood 2 meter Ham radio mounted in the Jeep, I also have a Uniden 520 XL Pro Cb. I use the CB much more often on trail rides.

KI5JCQ

Jerry Bransford 12-06-2020 04:03 PM

Uniden's Pro 520xl and Pro 510xl are both tough to beat for reliability. Same with Firestik antennas.

For offroading CBs are still king and the most popular for trail communications. I have both a CB and 2 meter ham radio in my TJ and use the 4 watt CB 99 times to each time I use my 75 watt ham radio.

Airstreamer67 12-07-2020 11:49 AM

I'm in the Uniden 520 camp too.

When I need a radio in the Jeep, I plop a 55-inch Wilson 500 mag mount antenna on the hood of my TJ, get the coax through the passenger-side window and connect it to the Uniden, which is mounted temporarily in the cabin.

My setup communicates well. When I don't need it anymore, the antenna and radio are out in a minute.

The Wilson tunes to a low SWR where I put it, and with no RF interference from the engine, life is good.

Rapidrob 12-07-2020 03:45 PM

After much reading,comparing warranties, and overall size and where to put it, I went with the President Electronics BILL FCC. This radio will fit between the drivers seat cushion and the center consul with room to spare for cooling and sound. It is the smallest CB radio that is in one piece being sold today.
I made my own antenna bracket and will be installing the Wilson Flex 4' tune-able antenna.
I have started the process of getting my HAM License and will use the "ash-tray" mounting idea or other location for that radio.

There are combo radios that are several HAM frequencies as well as CB that are not larger than the Uniden 520 radio. If I go with that radio later on, I will move the CB radio to my VW TDI Passat Wagon.

wpod 12-08-2020 01:44 AM

I'm running a Galaxy DX47HP, Hustler antenna, and a static mic.
A friend of mine had a Connex and we experimented on I-80 across the Bonneville Salt Flats. At 30 miles the signal faded to where it no longer sounded like the other guy was sitting next to you. At 45 miles we were no longer line of sight because of the curve of the Earth, so it was staticy.


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Rapidrob 12-08-2020 05:52 AM

That was pretty darn good.

Jerry Bransford 12-08-2020 07:34 PM

Keep in mind that HF signals like 27 MHz CB are not line of sight like VHF, UHF, and higher frequencies are.

Rapidrob 12-11-2020 11:05 AM

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The CB Radio showed up this morning. The quality is first rate and the housing is cast aluminum. The speaker opening is tough plastic. The radio will just fit into the palm of my hand.
Too many features to list.

President Electronics BILL FCC model.

Rapidrob 12-11-2020 11:48 AM

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I just did a trial fit and the radio and the quick release bracket will fit between the drivers seat and the center consul with room to spare.
I also noted that the CB radio will fit in the space where either of the sun-glass holders are in the overhead for those of you who want it above your head. That would make a very neat installation.

Harriedtwo 12-12-2020 03:48 PM

RapidRob, I received a Cobra CB for my birthday to replace my old CB since it was fading away. Everything is in the handheld part and the other part will reside somewhere under the dash. The Las Cruces 4x4 club is starting to switch to a different radio system for the Chile Challenge since distance is not such an issue. I've used some of the FMR units when hiking but they are not as reliable as I thought they would be.

Best wishes on your install and while out riding. I'm staying at home these days since I haven't installed the new trackbar and I don't want the darn COVID since both my wife and I are in the High Risk category.

Vietnam was so long ago, but the memories from that time never go away. (Army 67-70; 412th Trans Co, 2nd LOG)

Rapidrob 12-12-2020 04:10 PM

What radio system are they going to?

Ozzy379 12-23-2020 03:00 AM

I I had a Uniden 520 and it was a screamer right out if the box. It had a good set of ears too. I do not use my squelch at all. Which is why I went with the 520. It has adjustable RF gain. Stock microphone works best with it. I experimented with a noise canceling mic. They can't get the radio modulated. If you or someone else decides to go with that radio later one. You won't be disappointed.

downs 12-23-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapidrob (Post 41147351)
What radio system are they going to?

I just checked their bylaws and it still says CB in there. But if they are following the general trend it'll be to GMRS/FRS. Jeep Jamborees will be requiring GMRS/FRS vs CB starting 2021. Smaller equipment and antennas easier to tune usually comes already tuned. FM vs AM sound quality. Repeater access.

CB is kind of losing steam with a lot of groups. It's still out there for sure but not near as much as it used to be. I think with this new solar cycle coming in CB may "wake up" again for those still using it. I run HAM, GMRS/FRS, and CB right now. It's pretty much the only way to effectively "cover the bases" when it comes to the fractured comms landscape of the off road community.

Rapidrob 12-23-2020 11:19 AM

I bought a Wison FLEX antenna for the rear mount of my ZJ. The antenna SWR is so high it is not safe to transmit.
I had to buy a roof top magnetic mount to see if I can get the SWR down to normal readings.
The FCC HAM exam is next month and I hope to get one of the two licenses.
I use Family Band radios now for the shooting club I run and they are pretty poor.111p

Rapidrob 12-24-2020 03:39 PM

The magnetic mount showed up today and the SWR is now very low. I could reach a trucker at 6 miles.
More than what I need.

Harriedtwo 12-26-2020 12:36 AM

Rapidrob, I don't know. The group has been very quiet for the past few months so I'll try to get in touch with them to find out. If they are switching, it will be primarily for the club as it operates the various trail rides. We've had issues in the past regarding a lot of vehicles spread out over a lot of trail. I know of several trails where we had to have someone in the center of the group aid in relaying messages and information regarding issues like stuck vehicles, breakdowns, etc.

Rapidrob 12-26-2020 06:42 AM

OK, just let me know as I'm getting my HAM license ( Tech) in January. If the club is going to be on a FCC General Band I'll need to get busy with my studies for that license and radio purchase.

CJ7-Tim 12-26-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapidrob (Post 41156945)
I bought a Wison FLEX antenna for the rear mount of my ZJ. The antenna SWR is so high it is not safe to transmit.

I do not care for the Wilson FLEX antenna with the little wire tail on it. I have much better results tuning for a low SWR with the FireStik FS that have the tuning tip. The longer the antenna length, the easier it is to tune, and it will have a wider bandwidth of channel coverage with a good SWR.

cranbiz 01-04-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapidrob (Post 41158903)
OK, just let me know as I'm getting my HAM license ( Tech) in January. If the club is going to be on a FCC General Band I'll need to get busy with my studies for that license and radio purchase.

I seriously doubt that they will be using HF for trail comms, which would require a General ticket. The radio's are larger, the antenna's are larger and everything is more expensive.They will use either 2M or 70CM thru a repeater if they need distance. The cheap Chicom radios work in these bands ($30 Baofeng HT or a 4 channel QYT mobile for $80) A decent dual band mobile by one of the big 3 (Kenwood, Yaesu or Icom) come in around $300

downs 01-05-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cranbiz (Post 41167099)
I seriously doubt that they will be using HF for trail comms, which would require a General ticket. The radio's are larger, the antenna's are larger and everything is more expensive.They will use either 2M or 70CM thru a repeater if they need distance. The cheap Chicom radios work in these bands ($30 Baofeng HT or a 4 channel QYT mobile for $80) A decent dual band mobile by one of the big 3 (Kenwood, Yaesu or Icom) come in around $300

+1 the tech level license is going to probably do everything you want to do in a Jeep unless you get into really long distance stuff.

Rapidrob 01-05-2021 09:43 PM

I have the option to also take the General exam at the same time as the Tech exam. I'm reading everything I can get my hands on for the exam. It would be nice to open up more band width and frequencies.

cranbiz 01-06-2021 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapidrob (Post 41168615)
I have the option to also take the General exam at the same time as the Tech exam. I'm reading everything I can get my hands on for the exam. It would be nice to open up more band width and frequencies.

Absolutely, as long as you pass an element, the session can continue for the next level exam for your one exam fee. So, if you pass both the Tech and the General exams, you can also take the Extra. Even if you are not ready for the next level exam, take it. If you pass, great, if not, then what you get is a look at the exam for the next time.

I have seen examinee's come in for a Tech and leave with an Extra. Granted, that's rare. Our last session we had one Tech candidate leave with his General.

Good luck.

Rapidrob 01-06-2021 08:35 AM

I live on the side of a mountain at 8,000 feet ASL and never really thought about becoming a HAM operator. While any antenna I could legally put up won't clear the summit of the mountain, I can clearly transmit South,West,and North with no issues. Sandia Mountain is only 14 miles away due West of my home with tons of repeaters and the like all over its summit.
Even a mobile unit here should do well if properly set up.

Rapidrob 01-16-2021 04:35 PM

I got my Tech license today and missed the General by two questions. I'll take the General exam again next month.
The left has now imposed a fee of 35 dollars to get your license which was free for me today. I'll have to pay for the General License if I pass the exam next month unless they hold off passing the Fee requirement.

McFuddlenuts 03-18-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapidrob (Post 41146377)
I just did a trial fit and the radio and the quick release bracket will fit between the drivers seat and the center consul with room to spare.
I also noted that the CB radio will fit in the space where either of the sun-glass holders are in the overhead for those of you who want it above your head. That would make a very neat installation.

Iím looking at the Uniden 505xl, it seems to be about the same size. What it holding that in place between the seats? Bracket? Iím trying to find room in my TJ, and that looks like a decent option.

Thanks!

Rapidrob 03-18-2021 03:55 PM

My radio is so small it is in-between the passenger seat and the floor consul. A piece of Velcro is holding it in place. I can remove it from the Jeep in just a few seconds. Since I posted the topic I have really enjoyed the President "Bill" radio. I have made contacts at distances with my magnetic Tram antenna I would not have thought was possible just a few years ago.

A very high quality radio.

McFuddlenuts 03-19-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapidrob (Post 41227513)
My radio is so small it is in-between the passenger seat and the floor consul. A piece of Velcro is holding it in place. I can remove it from the Jeep in just a few seconds. Since I posted the topic I have really enjoyed the President "Bill" radio. I have made contacts at distances with my magnetic Tram antenna I would not have thought was possible just a few years ago.

A very high quality radio.

Very cool. Iíve got a 4í firestik that Iíll be pairing it with. I had originally thought I was just going to pair it with a handheld Uniden using a PL259 to BNC adapter but the more I think about it, I might want something a little more permanent.

My dad has his tech cert for ham, has had it since they required you to know Morse code and has been encouraging me to go that route as well but the testing here outside Atlanta has dried up.

Rapidrob 03-19-2021 11:47 AM

Since I posted the new CB radio I've taken the two test and gotten my FCC General license and am working on my Extra exam. Old Dog new tricks sort of a thing with me.
Both types of radio communications are a good thing out here as cell phone service can be very poor here in NM.
Normal CB is good for 5-7 miles, and with the 5 Watt VHF/UHF Ham radio being good for 85 miles or more as per the contacts I've made so far.That depends on Simplex or if I hitting a repeater.

DonL3 04-16-2021 03:50 AM

Hand held radios
 
For CB: I like the Midland 75-822 40 Channel CB-Way Radio (on amazon)
with a "Lil Will" mag mount auto antenna

For GMRS/FRS: I like the BaoFeng UV-5R Dual Band Two Way Radio (Black) (kit with goodies) and a
Bingfu Ham Radio Vehicle Car Mobile Radio Antenna Dual Band VHF UHF 136-174MHz 400-520MHz Magnetic Base PL259 Male Antenna

Using a couple of Panavise mounts I can have both radios on the dash while on the trail, and stow them in the console when I am off the trail.

I also use a handheld CB or another GMRS/FRS handheld when spotting on the trail.

CountryZJ 05-04-2021 10:14 PM

I have a president adams with a 4 foot firestik antenna tuned by one the local shops in my area I have no complaints with it

CountryZJ 05-04-2021 10:15 PM

Local cb shop owner said that it's the most popular among the Jeep clubs in my area

cbmadcow 05-31-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DonL3 (Post 41250919)
For CB: I like the Midland 75-822 40 Channel CB-Way Radio (on amazon)
with a "Lil Will" mag mount auto antenna

For GMRS/FRS: I like the BaoFeng UV-5R Dual Band Two Way Radio (Black) (kit with goodies) and a
Bingfu Ham Radio Vehicle Car Mobile Radio Antenna Dual Band VHF UHF 136-174MHz 400-520MHz Magnetic Base PL259 Male Antenna

Using a couple of Panavise mounts I can have both radios on the dash while on the trail, and stow them in the console when I am off the trail.

I also use a handheld CB or another GMRS/FRS handheld when spotting on the trail.

Can you post which Panavise mounts you are using? I have both those radios and want to mount them in my Jeep also?.


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