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post #1 of 49 Old 11-01-2009, 11:53 PM Thread Starter
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max tire size w/3.5 lift. what will work???(already went to faq)?

03 wj 4.7 3.5 lift (2"bb w/ spring helpers only) no other suspension changes other than longer shocks. want tallest tires possible without regearing or redoing any suspension. am willing to trim wheel well plastic only and add 1.5 inch wheel spacers to my stock 16 inch rims. am wanting a very narrow 8.5-10 tread. i have found the tires but wont buy until i am confident of the afforementioned issues. i have read arloguthrie posts in FAQ, but, have since read posts in this forum of 33s' w/ no lift or any mods with supposedly minimal/no rubbing and no trimming. saw the lift/tire table and it shows 33 10.5 w/no trimming if the width is the issue not so much the height they make taller narrow tires. i just want a warm fuzzy feeling about my tires thats why i am posting this. i dont want 33s' just to find out 35s' fit. any input. thanks ron.


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I've got 32's (well, measured 31's) and they stuff quite nicely at full flex front and rear at 4.5" of lift.

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If you are at a true 3.5" lift then you should be able to fit 33's. That is with bumper trimming and well ar a bit of very minor modding to the wheel well sheet metal that is impossible to notice.
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If you are at a true 3.5" lift then you should be able to fit 33's. That is with bumper trimming and well ar a bit of very minor modding to the wheel well sheet metal that is impossible to notice.

why do i see post in this forum w/ 33 2"bb and no thrimming? is thst because they dont mind the rubbing when turning? because the tires arent hitting front or rear.
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why do i see post in this forum w/ 33 2"bb and no thrimming? is thst because they dont mind the rubbing when turning? because the tires arent hitting front or rear.
If you are refering to the post above mine, hes on 4.5" of lift. Each Jeep is different, different weight based on cargo and passenger and different spring sag and wear. My friend has 31's on stock suspension with zero issues, I had to trim my bumper(read: rip it off) to make it so my 31's didnt rub with a 2" BB. The rubbing at full lock can be solved by adding a washer to the steering stops, it reduces the turning radius by a few feet but stops the rub. Offroad flex also comes into play, you will be able to fit a much larger tire if you dont care about felxing them out.

I could fit 35's with a bit of trim but have zero flex, as it stands with 31's I can put my tires right up into the fenders.
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I could fit 35's with a bit of trim but have zero flex, as it stands with 31's I can put my tires right up into the fenders.[/QUOTE]

if i understand then, the 35 will hit the top fender metal instead of rolling up into the wheel well. or, it will roll into the wheel well and damage the top of the well and maybe the tire if i am offroading or maybe run over a curb? i appreciate your patience and input. thanks, ron
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I could fit 35's with a bit of trim but have zero flex, as it stands with 31's I can put my tires right up into the fenders.
if i understand then, the 35 will hit the top fender metal instead of rolling up into the wheel well. or, it will roll into the wheel well and damage the top of the well and maybe the tire if i am offroading or maybe run over a curb? i appreciate your patience and input. thanks, ron[/quote]

If I was to put a 35x12.5 on, even with my spacers, I would bend the top of the wheelwell sheetmetal all to hell and probably damage the tire.

This is what happens when you flex too much. Light rub with 31's, I came off the gas when I heard the tire grinding against metal.


If I had 35's and not enough lift/trim/bumpstopping done the whole quarterpanel would have shredded. 33's would have probably done the same in that spot.
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i had a 4" teraflex and 2"bb on mine and i was running 32's. i also like to flex.35's on 3.5" of lift, to me, just sounds like your asking for trouble, not to mention the wear and tear, better get the right size bumpstops!

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thanks to fraserbrown and kramerh!!!! the picture is exactly what i am afraid of. bumpstops go inside the spring. right? i did some looking at them and am willing to do that to get 35' on there. again 3.5 lift. what size bumpstops? and is this measurement in addition to stock bumpstops(that i have) or in place of overall height?
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You mentioned you don't want to cut metal, right? If that's the case then stop at 33", bumpstop it well so you don't smack stuff and trim the bottom of the bumper, flatten the pinch seam and trim the inner lip of the fender. To do that just make relief cuts in the lip and then use channel locks with a piece of rubber or something soft to bend in the metal. You won't have the same amount of flex as Kramer or me, but it will look pretty good and work if you dont do much wheeling.

A 33x10.5 on a stock rim should work fine.
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ronsaun, im telling you man, by reading your other post your looking to get good gas mileage and wanting 35's on 3.5 inches of lift, its an oxymoron haha. you could probably get away with some 33 10.50's but once again, you hit a curb and get any flex its going to bend the sheet metal like it did on mine and fraser's rigs. arlo is an 6" with long arms and is running 35's, just to put it in perspective.. here i am at 6" (spring and spacer) and i creased my fender due to bump stops being too short.



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i had rubbing with 2.5" and 32's.... one inch more of lift isn't gonna get 35's in there.... and i'm not just talking about you rubbing on the front bumper, you will rub on the rear's of both front and back wheel wells. and even tho you have the 4.7, 35's need regearing. i notice a huge difference in going from 30's to 32's. my jeep got ALOT slower, AND I have the H.O. 35's= TROUBLE, 33's=REGEAR, 32's=PERFECT

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Damn, I completely forgot about the read. Sorry.
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35's= TROUBLE, 33's=REGEAR, 32's=PERFECT
i agree with this for the most part, but you don't just lose power when you put on tires, the lift is a contributor as well (IE drive-shaft angles, weight, etc etc) now 35's are trouble, not just meaning gas mileage, power and such, but your d30 was not built to handle that. either was your 44a really, but i haven't heard of any issues unless it was already on its way out. i plan on doing 33's when i get my springs, but im also at 6" with power adders. i do like the way my 32's ride, but i LOVED the power my jeep had stock. wayyy better than it is now.

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This is all the room i have with 32's on my 2.5"bb, like i said, one inch higher won't fit 35's

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