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post #88486 of 91824 Old 08-11-2017, 09:01 AM
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For those of you with the HD Offroad No Lift Shackle relocation brackets, @shooptube @bluejunior or anyone else, do you think there's enough room between the holes to weld a nut to the back of each one? I am thinking about ordering these for my shackle relocation vs making my own but with my rear stiffeners I doubt I will be able to get to the nut in the back with a wrench. If the nut was already welded in place, I wouldn't have to worry about it. Thoughts?
Can't say I've measured. It would be damned close but I think they might be just a smidge too close together for it to work. For that matter, the space between stock "frame" and the brackets is really tight on the nut already, how thick are the stiffeners?

I've always said I wouldn't do those brackets again, but it seems to me you should
A) contact HD and ask if they've had people use them with stiffeners and for a center to center on the holes.
B) Just get the bolt-in type that are way less of a hassle to both install and live with.


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Can't say I've measured. It would be damned close but I think they might be just a smidge too close together for it to work. For that matter, the space between stock "frame" and the brackets is really tight on the nut already, how thick are the stiffeners?

I've always said I wouldn't do those brackets again, but it seems to me you should
A) contact HD and ask if they've had people use them with stiffeners and for a center to center on the holes.
B) Just get the bolt-in type that are way less of a hassle to both install and live with.
I'll send HD Offroad an email. I have zero interest in the bolt in type because I don't want that much lift. I want to keep the Jeep low. Since my rear quarter panels are already trimmed, it shouldn't be hard to get in there and cut the old shackle brackets out. Putting these in will be easier than building my own, and is probably easier than all the cutting and welding I did on the fenders the other day.

The rear stiffeners are 10 gauge, so 0.140" thick. I don't believe the brackets will overlap the stiffeners, but the stiffeners will most likely just about but up against them, making access with a wrench more difficult.

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For those of you with the HD Offroad No Lift Shackle relocation brackets, @shooptube @bluejunior or anyone else, do you think there's enough room between the holes to weld a nut to the back of each one? I am thinking about ordering these for my shackle relocation vs making my own but with my rear stiffeners I doubt I will be able to get to the nut in the back with a wrench. If the nut was already welded in place, I wouldn't have to worry about it. Thoughts?
Just spinin' grey matter here ...

Maybe you fab a custom drilled and tapped 'nut strip' made from some heavy flat stock that would fit . Then weld that strip in place .

Or maybe use some well nuts ground to fit .

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Wouldn't 10 guage be 0.10"?

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Just spinin' grey matter here ...

Maybe you fab a custom drilled and tapped 'nut strip' made from some heavy flat stock that would fit . Then weld that strip in place .

Or maybe use some well nuts ground to fit .
That's actually a pretty good idea about drilling and tapping a piece of stock. That's what I did for my trailer hitch a few years back. Worked out great.

Btw, I did email HD Offroad so I'll report back what I find when they respond.

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Wouldn't 10 guage be 0.10"?
Nope, not sure how it's calculated but the lower the number, the thicker it is.

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So I got a response from HD Off-road, I think if I can't weld nuts behind it, I can take pdcomm's idea to build a nut strip and weld that in and achieve the same thing. It sounds like the stiffeners shouldn't be an issue as far as interference, but maybe an issue as far as access. So I guess I'm going to pull the trigger on them and look for a welding solution. Their response wasn't super helpful but they at least did get back to me in a very timely fashion. Here is the response.

"The brackets sit in the stock location. Should not interfere with frame stiffeners. About welding a nut for the Shackle you will have to check to see if there is enough room."

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Wouldn't 10 guage be 0.10"?
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Felt like a typical XJ owner today. My tools of choice were a sawzall, angle grinder, and a die grinder. Got one rear quarter panel chipped and one wheel well opened up for the bigger tire's so I can keep the Jeep relatively low. Opted for the cut and weld method rather than the cut and fold. Looks like I'll have plenty of room. Keep in mind the Jeep is stripped with no bumper, fuel tank, interior, drive train etc, so it's sitting higher than it will. Also haven't relocated the shackle yet so the angle is horrible. Started like this. Ended like this. And this is with the new 35's. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Is that your true shackle angle?

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So I got a response from HD Off-road, I think if I can't weld nuts behind it, I can take pdcomm's idea to build a nut strip and weld that in and achieve the same thing. It sounds like the stiffeners shouldn't be an issue as far as interference, but maybe an issue as far as access. So I guess I'm going to pull the trigger on them and look for a welding solution. Their response wasn't super helpful but they at least did get back to me in a very timely fashion. Here is the response.

"The brackets sit in the stock location. Should not interfere with frame stiffeners. About welding a nut for the Shackle you will have to check to see if there is enough room."
I apologize for the large pic but want you to be able to see it clearly. This is on the passenger side showing clearance between the frame and shackle box. The nut HD provides is rather large; a 17, 19, or 21mm IIRC (not that I narrowed it down for you LOL). I can take more pics if you want something specific, just lmk!

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I apologize for the large pic but want you to be able to see it clearly. This is on the passenger side showing clearance between the frame and shackle box. The nut HD provides is rather large; a 17, 19, or 21mm IIRC (not that I narrowed it down for you LOL). I can take more pics if you want something specific, just lmk!





Awesome, thanks for the picture! I ordered the brackets today, so no matter what I am going to figure it out.


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Is that your true shackle angle?


For now it is, won't ever be driven while it's like that.


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Passenger side door check is in. And out with the old crappy aftermarket tinted glass that turned purple and in with the new, to me, factory privacy glass. Passenger side anyway. Was going to sound deaden in there before I put the glass back in. Without the bar on the small window it would have been slightly easier but realized it is a little damp in there so we will see if I can do it later. Would have just left the glass out but we are expecting rain this afternoon/evening. Maybe tomorrow if not today. Now to do the driver's side.
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Now the driver's side is done. Not doing it today but anybody know what would be a good diameter of rope to use to put in the cargo bay windows?
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Quick question. My d35 went out but had brand new brakes. I'm gonna pick up a junk yard 8.25. Are the brakes interchangeable. Meaning can I swap my new brakes from the d35 to the junkyard 8.25

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