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post #82546 of 92112 Old 06-23-2016, 05:54 PM
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Well I've now driven my jeep for about a hundred miles without the D30 puking diff fluid everywhere, so that's a start.


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post #82547 of 92112 Old 06-23-2016, 09:01 PM
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Now time to save for tires and a lift finally.
Ditto. Coworker is bringing a lift for me to look at this weekend.

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Got a low speed DW on the way to work today. Triggered by any bumps in the road. I've noticed its felt a little loose on the highway for a couple days now, but today is the first day that it has actually death wobbled. I even checked my ball joints and unit bearings after work yesterday to make sure everything seemed tight, and it was. Didn't have a second person to turn the steering wheel to see if the track bar or steering linkages were moving correctly though. The thing is strait as an arrow at 80 with no hands, just a little loose. But hit a bump at 25 and its all over the place. Hoping its just my lower trackbar bolt loose again. Guess I should locktite it this time. Already welded a washer on the last time it came loose to make the bolt hole circular again.

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Got a low speed DW on the way to work today. Triggered by any bumps in the road. I've noticed its felt a little loose on the highway for a couple days now, but today is the first day that it has actually death wobbled. I even checked my ball joints and unit bearings after work yesterday to make sure everything seemed tight, and it was. Didn't have a second person to turn the steering wheel to see if the track bar or steering linkages were moving correctly though. The thing is strait as an arrow at 80 with no hands, just a little loose. But hit a bump at 25 and its all over the place. Hoping its just my lower trackbar bolt loose again. Guess I should locktite it this time. Already welded a washer on the last time it came loose to make the bolt hole circular again.
Sounds like the track bar bolt to me, that's bump steer not death wobble, just saying.


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research always pays off. An 8.25 is weak for something big with a lot of power, like a truck. On an XJ people run as big as 37's on them with the right upgrades. A 44 is marginally stronger, but not enough that I'd bother. If you're stressing a built 8.25 you need something with a significant advantage like an 8.8. If you're not, then it's got better under diff clearance and is lighter than a beefy axle like that, both of which are very good things in an XJ where clearance is king and the power/weight ratio isn't exactly stellar before you start armoring it.
If you are stressing over a 8.25 it is time for a sixty or 14 bolt. Skip the half ton bull**** coming from some one who did it already.

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If you're stressing a built 8.25 then I'm betting you have plenty other driveline/steering issues.

Seems unlikely that a built 8.25 would be the weakest link in a wheeler set-up.....

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If you're stressing a built 8.25 then I'm betting you have plenty other driveline/steering issues.

Seems unlikely that a built 8.25 would be the weakest link in a wheeler set-up.....
if you're heavy on the skinny pedal and it's locked you can start snapping even molly shafts as low as 35's. Still though, that's isolated circumstances.

8.25's are up to most things an XJ will ever throw at it. I only went to the 8.8 because I wanted an LSD, discs and 4.10's. The 8.8 brought all that to me for a lot less than adding it to the 8.25.

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if you're heavy on the skinny pedal and it's locked you can start snapping even molly shafts as low as 35's. Still though, that's isolated circumstances.

8.25's are up to most things an XJ will ever throw at it. I only went to the 8.8 because I wanted an LSD, discs and 4.10's. The 8.8 brought all that to me for a lot less than adding it to the 8.25.
^^^ Certainly, but if you're heavy on the throttle you are subjecting a lot of other likely weaker parts to breakage before the built 8.25 - especially the '97+ 29 spline......

The 8.8 is definitely a good bang for the buck option.

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Sounds like the track bar bolt to me, that's bump steer not death wobble, just saying.
I am not sure I would call it bump steer. I am almost stock so bump steer isn't much of a concern at my low height. I may be on 33's but the Jeep is only lifted 1.5". My drag link and trackbar should be moving at very close to the same rate though the travel of the suspension. I called it death wobble because the steering wheel starts getting pushed back and forth rapidly after hitting the bump. I suppose if I had a lot of bump steer due to poor angles that would certainly be a trigger but being so close to stock it never really even crossed my mind.

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Well, the track bar bolt was tight as could be. Guess I have to start tracking down other issues now...

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2000 Silver XJ, 4.0, AW4 with 350k+, Locked C8.25 w/ Chromos, Trussed hp30, 4.56's, Stiffened, IRO leafs, RE coils, custom 3 link, WJ knuckles, 35's
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Got a friend to sit in the drivers seat and turn the steering wheel while the engine was running so I could look at all the steering components while they moved. The ball joint on the frame side of the trackbar is toast. Now is probably a good time to upgrade to an adjustable trackbar seeing how I am slightly lifted now and only getting taller in the future.... Probably will just go with an RE1600. Installed one on my buddy's cherokee at 3" and had plenty of adjustment for something slightly lower than that so I imagine I will be fine at 2" even though it isnt technically "rated" for something that low.

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IRO trackbar is what you seek

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IRO trackbar is what you seek
That double shear track bar is beef as hell. It's what I use at 3" and definitely has some adjustment left to go shorter.

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I was looking into replacing my battery cables so I went to Rock Auto and the only one listed was "MOPAR 56009783AE" and was out of stock and is said to be discontinued. is there any place y'all know of where i can grab one or is there another brand I can buy?
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