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post #77806 of 91579 Old 01-26-2016, 09:35 PM
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Not true. When I went wheeling with Phil, I tried to unbolt the links from the axle and the bolts needed to be heated to remove them.

I am at 4.5" of lift with 32s, how sketchy would that body roll be?
The bolts are spline-shouldered and pressed in. The nut should be conquerable though.


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post #77807 of 91579 Old 01-26-2016, 09:37 PM
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Doesnt it make that jeep almost flip when taking corners?
Not if you have good springs. I broke my end links when I replaced my springs/shocks and I drove it for 6 months before I replaced them.

Then again, you drive 90mph. Get some discos.
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Doesnt it make that jeep almost flip when taking corners?
Depends almost entirely on your spring rates and CoM. Stiff springs, like....towing leaves and BDS fronts for example, it wouldn't be as noticeable as you'd think. LIghter spring rates (the fronts especially), like Rubicon Express or Rough Country (about 2/3 the spring rate of BDS coils and close to stock rate) will be MUCH more noticeable and dangerous. Shocks play a part in immediate changes like a split second swerve and straighten, but won't really affect body roll against a normal turn were the force is applie more than momentarily.

Having things up high on the jeep like a big spare or a bunch of gear on your roof rack will also affect roll greatly since the higher the weight is the more leverage it has.

As a rule of thumb, I say no jeep that is driven regularly on the highway should go without at least a front sway bar but backroad, farm, city and dedicated trail rigs MAY be okay to test without one driving conservatively. Too many chances for evasive maneuvers or unexpectedly sharp turns to cause a real problem even if it's fine under normal circumstances. That said, with stiff springs and a lowish CoM plenty of guys drive without them, but I'll never suggest it unless you have to do it to get home.

I'm conservative about sway bars, though. I spend a lot of time winding over state highways at 75 and cruising through dallas traffic and take quite a few fairly hard turns at highway speed. I could tell a difference in body roll after the rear sway bar delete even with my pretty stiff leaves (Crown HD leaves w/an RC long AAL)

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I don't have 33's and I don't wheel.
Then it's good.

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Im on 3.5 inch re lift on 32s and iI drive mine daily as well as wheel it every chance I can. I run no swaybars and no steering stabilizer and I have no issues
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At 1.5" and 33's I can tell hugely when my swaybar is disconnected. I leave it on all the time. Handles way better and much less body roll. Even at such a low height. The rear on the other hand, that thing is just garbage. Maybe it's due to my HD leafs but I didn't even notice it was gone.

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At 1.5" and 33's I can tell hugely when my swaybar is disconnected. I leave it on all the time. Handles way better and much less body roll. Even at such a low height. The rear on the other hand, that thing is just garbage. Maybe it's due to my HD leafs but I didn't even notice it was gone.
Quick survey - Who still has a rear swaybar?

Follow up if you do, is it because you tow a trailer?
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Quick survey - Who still has a rear swaybar?
Nope and can't really tell a difference either.

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I was gonna take the whole thing off but I figured if I have to do a long (100 mile +) highway run or if I let a woman/girl drive it I'll hook it up. Lol.

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Quick survey - Who still has a rear swaybar?

Follow up if you do, is it because you tow a trailer?
Kept mine for a long time for that reason, took it off a couple months ago.

Considering putting it back on. I have HD leaves and all, but I can tell it's not there. Doesn't worry me, doesn't feel like I'm going to flip or anything. The *** just doesn't quite feel planted like it used to.

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Quick survey - Who still has a rear swaybar? Follow up if you do, is it because you tow a trailer?
I put mine back when I replaced my springs. And I don't normally ever tow a trailer. I just figured why not keep it

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Then it's good.
What locker are you talking about? The g80 I ordered that every one is saying is "gonna splode". I got it for $200 now I feel I ****ed up!! Might try to resell it.
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Quick survey - Who still has a rear swaybar?

Follow up if you do, is it because you tow a trailer?
No rear swaybar. Never noticed a difference even with a 4k lb trailer.
Disconnected front sway bar. Don't try evasive maneuvers!! Unless you have no choice. Looking at getting new quick links RC broke twice. They suck.
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Im on 3.5 inch re lift on 32s and iI drive mine daily as well as wheel it every chance I can. I run no swaybars and no steering stabilizer and I have no issues
I have the same setup, but with rough country (bought it that way--I do know better lol), and my rear outside tire would come off the ground making right-angle turns at intersections when I had bad swaybar bushings. I can't imagine how bad it would have been with no front swaybar at all.

Caveat: the car I was driving before I bought this XJ was a lowered WRX, so my driving might have been a tad more....aggressive....than normal

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Quick survey - Who still has a rear swaybar? Follow up if you do, is it because you tow a trailer?
I tow a trailer almost once a week. With my rear swaybar connected I could push my 31's into my cut and folded rear fenders and droop to having 10 inches of clearance on the other side. If I can bend that bar that much, it couldn't have been doing much good. So I just ditched it and threw it in the dumpster.

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