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post #1 of 11 Old 12-07-2019, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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Is my XJ the only one in the world? manual, 4x4, ABS

As far as I know it is very hard to find 4x4, 6 cyl. XJ with manual transmission. (I had many XJs)
Chances to find one also with ABS is close to 0.
My question:
Who has 4x4, 6 cyl., manual transmission 97-01 XJ with ABS?
Just trying to verify my bragging rights!

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post #2 of 11 Old 12-08-2019, 07:24 AM
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I have a '95 that fits that criteria... kind of. I have since disabled the abs when I installed a '98 C8.25 rear axle and a matched gear '96 d30 to do a cheap regear and rear axle upgrade.

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IMO ABS = D35... Bragging rights rescinded. Just say'n
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Is my XJ the only one in the world? manual, 4x4, ABS

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As far as I know it is very hard to find 4x4, 6 cyl. XJ with manual transmission. (I had many XJs)
Chances to find one also with ABS is close to 0.
My question:
Who has 4x4, 6 cyl., manual transmission 97-01 XJ with ABS?
Just trying to verify my bragging rights!
Since autos make everything offroad much easier (much more low end torque), ABS and a D35 are usually avoided, rare isn't what I'd call it. If it has 3.07 gears then you're all set. You might be the only one is the world that wants one.

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No, not even close to being the only one who prefers a 5spd. Automatics are for the less accomplished drivers who need to pay that extra attention to the simplest of things... imo

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No, not even close to being the only one who prefers a 5spd. Automatics are for the less accomplished drivers who need to pay that extra attention to the simplest of things... imo
Have you been to any pro offroad events lately? Not many manual trans ever (that win or place). Come on over to hardcore Pirate4x4 and post that statement.

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Just cuz there's a whole world of drivers who feel differently doesn't mean I can't be fine in a 5spd and have an opinion. Especially off-road I prefer to be able pick my shift points. At this point, half the world can't even drive a 5spd so they're certainly going to prefer an auto.
Not trying to glorify myself by any means, but if you aren't really good with a clutch, you're not going to prefer it.

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Just cuz there's a whole world of drivers who feel differently doesn't mean I can't be fine in a 5spd and have an opinion. Especially off-road I prefer to be able pick my shift points. At this point, half the world can't even drive a 5spd so they're certainly going to prefer an auto.
Not trying to glorify myself by any means, but if you aren't really good with a clutch, you're not going to prefer it.
Just stating the facts. I was responding to your ridiculous comment. One person's opinion of off road varies too much. Your profile says d35, 3.07s and 31s. That doesn't scream off road to me. D35 on any trail is like a ticking time bomb. Here's a quick trail fix with one.
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Automatics are for the less accomplished drivers who need to pay that extra attention to the simplest of things... imo
My Rubicon is a 5 speed. I think they're more fun to drive. Although the 4.1 t-case in 4low locked with 5.13 gears needs 4th gear to hit 15 mph.
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I haven't looked at my profile in years. Strangely, being able to edit your profile is the one thing they forgot to put on the mobile app. That, or I just haven't been able to figure out how. Going to the original web model of the forum leaves me logged out and going through the password fiasco.
As was stated earlier in this thread, I have a '98 8.25/'96 d30 TO DO A CHEAP REGEAR! The cheap option was 3.55's out of an auto, with 32's that I've spoken of many times over the last 3yrs, along with my mod list on COTM and COTY.
The 8.25 hasn't provided much assurance as I'm always more worried about breaking the d30.
I'm running 2k rpms in 5th gear to go 65mph. Any higher on the rpms and it kills my mpg.
But crawling, 4lo and first gear allows me to barely touch the gas and crawl right up the mountain side no problem.

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I daily a 6 speed and consider myself to mostly be a manual purist, but get into some really tricky stuff and you'll wish you had an auto. Hence, auto trail rig, 6 speed daily/autox car.

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I'm running 2k rpms in 5th gear to go 65mph. Any higher on the rpms and it kills my mpg.
MPG is based on BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption) which is a product of RPM and torque. Low RPM != better mpg because generally lower RPM will require more air for the same torque (think about where peak torque sits on most engines, that's where you get the most work done for the least amount of air, I think on XJs it's around 4,000 RPM). It all depends on the BSFC map of the engine, which none of us have lol.


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I consider doing it all with a clutch as part of the challenge of the terrain. I still don't think I'd give up 90% of my enjoyment just to have a crutch for a couple separate moments.
And 4k rpms!! Omg!! I shift at 2k-2200, ~2600 when I'm road raging.

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