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post #1 of 7 Old 07-25-2020, 07:56 PM Thread Starter
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Would you buy this 3-year-old Grand Cherokee (accident)?

My son is considering a 2017 Grand Cherokee with 33K miles for $22,993, (Can't post links yet, but it's at Car Gurus dotcom listing 265646186).

The car has one accident on its Carfax, damage apparently limited to the left-front corner, but no other info on the accident. The car was apparently a personal lease in Michigan, is now in Texas. Currently listed at half the original $44K sticker price ($22,993), below book @ $26,726-27,236.

The vehicle looks and drives pretty much like new. The price is attractive and I'm not really afraid of a vehicle that's been wrecked and repaired, but it's been on the market for 164 days and I'm thinking there must be a reason nobody else wants this car, so maybe I'm missing something important?

What do you guys think? Buy? Run away?



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post #2 of 7 Old 07-25-2020, 10:27 PM
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Doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. It's been in a wreck, and it sounds like there's not a whole lot of info about it. If he's planning to buy it and keep it for only a few years, it's a bad idea. An SUV with an accident history isn't going to bring much money back. If he's planning to keep it forever, it's also a bad idea. Unless you can find out exactly what the damage was, you don't know what kinds of issues are going to pop up down the road. I've seen some VERY questionable repair work done by "reputable" shops. There's already so many good options in that price range, so it doesn't make much sense to consider one with a history.

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Sounds like a fishy deal to me.
How severe was the wreck? Was it a total?
The fact that it was a Michigan leased vehicle that ended up in Texas after a wreck is suspicious. State to state transfers are a way shady dealers can make salvage/rebuild titles look clean again...
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post #4 of 7 Old 07-26-2020, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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Sounds like a fishy deal to me.
How severe was the wreck? Was it a total?
The fact that it was a Michigan leased vehicle that ended up in Texas after a wreck is suspicious. State to state transfers are a way shady dealers can make salvage/rebuild titles look clean again...
I don't know how to get more info on the wreck - Carfax just says that an accident was reported on 12/26/2017 and that the vehicle was functional. The vehicle was sold at auction on 2/10/2020, so the car was driven for two years after the accident (and the service records bear this out with multiple servicings and registration renewals between 12/2017 and 2/2019), so I don't see the car as a salvage situation from the 12/17 accident. After the first auction sale, the car went on the market in Tennessee on 2/12/20. Four months later it was auctioned again on 6/08 and moved to Texas where it again went on sale on 6/18. Besides being a slow seller, I don't see anything especially suspicious about the vehicle's provenance.


Doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. It's been in a wreck, and it sounds like there's not a whole lot of info about it. If he's planning to buy it and keep it for only a few years, it's a bad idea. An SUV with an accident history isn't going to bring much money back. If he's planning to keep it forever, it's also a bad idea. Unless you can find out exactly what the damage was, you don't know what kinds of issues are going to pop up down the road. I've seen some VERY questionable repair work done by "reputable" shops. There's already so many good options in that price range, so it doesn't make much sense to consider one with a history.


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Doesn't sound like much of a deal to me. It's been in a wreck, and it sounds like there's not a whole lot of info about it. If he's planning to buy it and keep it for only a few years, it's a bad idea. An SUV with an accident history isn't going to bring much money back. If he's planning to keep it forever, it's also a bad idea. Unless you can find out exactly what the damage was, you don't know what kinds of issues are going to pop up down the road. I've seen some VERY questionable repair work done by "reputable" shops. There's already so many good options in that price range, so it doesn't make much sense to consider one with a history.

All valid points. My thought on the lower resale is that he'd be purchasing at $4-5K under book value so yeah, he'll resale at a disadvantage but he's gaining an advantage at purchase time.

The accident is definitely a consideration (Carfax recommends having "this vehicle inspected by a collision repair specialist" whom, I assume, is a body shop, but I've never heard of a body shop doing presale inspections). Having something of a leadfoot, at 67 years old I've wrecked probably more than my share of cars over the years and have had good luck in that none of those wrecks caused issues down the road, which is why I'm not especially freaked out by this car's history. As far as there being plenty of fish in the sea, my son has some pretty specific requirements/wishes that do narrow the field.

But I figured the accident was a major factor in why the car hasn't sold, and it'll just be up to the kid to decide whether it's the right car or not.
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Not sure how you can do it with that info, but it's time for some detective work. For example, I was looking at a manual Honda Element for my gf last summer and, like your vehicle, Carfax mentioned an accident. Was able to track down full accident report after some searching, so I was more comfortable with the making a decision.

But the interstate transfer, as a previous poster mentioned, could be a warning flag. As far as "collision repair specialist" inspection, I've taken prospective vehicles to trusted body shops. More often than not, those guys can tell a) what the original damage was and how severe, and b) if the repairs done were adequate.

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You could request an included extended bumper/bumper warranty as part of the deal. Say 10 years, 150k miles, at a minimum.

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Thanks again for all the comments but while we were deliberating, someone else bought the car. Oh well, back to the drawing board!
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