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post #1 of 14 Old 06-19-2019, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Dealership stock or Custom Order?

Hey guys! I am looking to get a 2019 Wrangler JL S, with the 2.0T. I dont care about soft or hard top, im fine with either. I need AC and cruise, everything else seems to be included on even the most base models.

MSRP for the Wrangler the way i would prefer it looks like about $35,000. I see deals in my area for about $32,000. Should i buy a 2018/9 off a lot and hope the steering issue or frame weld problems are not on mine, or just custom order knowing it will be a brand new build? Will i get a decent discount since its not sitting on a lot costing the dealership interest?

My budget is $32,000 out the door. Has to be 32k or less with all taxes and fees included. This means with 2,600 in taxes in my state, i need to get the final price under 30k which i have seen done by some other buyers, but im wondering if i will fare better risking the steering/weld issues off a lot and getting it off the dealer's hands, or can i make this budget by factory ordering if i push the right dealership hard enough? Invoice on the wrangler the way i have spec'd it comes to about $28,500 which means the dealership has a bit of room for markup and shenanigans.

Thoughts and such very welcome and desired. Help! Thanks

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post #2 of 14 Old 06-19-2019, 05:30 PM
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IMO Avoid Being Jeep's Beta Tester..

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Im not sure i understand, are you saying i should avoid the first couple years of the new JL or simply avoid the first year models that are on the lot?

Im young, and not exactly doing great financially, but i want to get into a jeep to enable me to enjoy what free time i have more out in the country where my heart is. I really wanted to buy used, but the prices are so exorbitant and to get anything clean and non rusty where i am would require a thousand dollar flight and drive back to arizona, which im not sure is worth while especially since even TJ's are upward of 16 grand, forget a used JK they are over 23k easily.... I just figured i might as well buy new and utilize that warranty should it be needed...
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IMO Avoid Being Jeep's Beta Tester..



Im not sure what you mean? Avoid just the first year model sitting on the lots, or avoid the first few years of the new JL altogether? From what im seeing theres a few issues but overall the far majority of reviews and consumers are saying its the best version of the wrangler to date, improvising and building on everything the past gens have offered... Time will tell i suppose...


I was initially looking to buy used but that would require a thousand dollar fly out and drive back, since theres nothing within a thousand miles of me that is going to be truly rust free and well kept. Also, the prices on used JK's and even TJs are just exorbitant... its hideous, i was like whatever ill just buy new!
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internet issues... thought the first reply didnt post so it had me try again, oh well
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If one hasn't noticed you've said many things that would be a concern and avoid buying the new jeeps. I'm sure you've seen numerous post/videos about how many things I hate about the new JL.. but that video only list 10 issues, I've since increased the number of issue to 12.

But to actually answer you question, I would more apt to special order a wrangler then purchase one off the lot, which we did back in 2017. Besides, special ordering one, you'll get exactly what you wanted. One thing I'd wait around for is you can, is the Government is working on rolling back many of the fuel standards. This mean one could see a change in the ESS system on these jeeps. So buying a new JL now would be like buying a new YJ back when it was first introduced. Not many liked it.

Here's what I'm expecting to happen. The price of the JT will drop, the ESS system will be reworked and the JL as well as the JT would get wider. Let's not forget the 2 door JT.. A cheaper version of the Gladiator. I was expecting these things to happen before the new jeep's hit the market. But never happen.

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It's harder (not impossible) to get a deal on a custom order. Usually something on the lot, if it's been sitting around, can be negotiated at a decent discount.

The problem with one on the lot is the dealer may have done all the useless, expensive, high profit dealer add ons and it can be hard to remove them or get them to discount those. You won't have that with a custom order.

The Chrysler Affiliate program gets you a no haggle 1% below dealer invoice on a custom order and you can still use any factory incentives that may apply. It's nice to have that in your back pocket if your dealer won't deal. The Affiliate program is available thru some employers (mine is) or as a $100 Tread Lightly member. Look into it and if eligible, get the certificate. work your best deal and if it's more than the affiliate pricing, then use the certificate.

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Order one the way you want it and inspect it before you sign any papers!
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post #9 of 14 Old 06-20-2019, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
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i get a 1,000 discount because im a parts specialist at an auto parts store...


In half hour of just talking with my local dealership and then some basic negotiating he came down to 31 and change, out the door for 33,750


Is it unreasonable to want to get an out the door price of 32000?

(edit, taxes in my state on a sale price of 30k would be about 2600. Hence i need sale price to be under 29k or right on it




all i want is a base punkn orange sport with AC, Cruise, the 2.0 and 8spd.
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post #10 of 14 Old 06-21-2019, 08:58 AM
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$31K and change is right around invoice pricing. You might be able to due better depending on the time of month. Most dealers are willing to discount better the last few days of the month. There is about $1K in hold back money, you might be able to get them to discount that and with your $1K discount, be at your number. Are within a reasonable distance to McLaren VA? Koons CJDR does a group buy on most Jeeps. that is usually 4-8% below invoice on a factory order. You need to deal with the Internet sales manager but those who have used them say it's a painless process. They had been doing JL's as part of the group buy recently.
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Dennis Dillon in Idaho usually has the best deals on RAM1500s in the country. But I'm new to Jeeps, so I don't know how they do in that department. Check 'em out!

But I have a question: Since almost all new vehicles come with a/c and cruise, is there a concern that a Jeep wouldn't have that as standard equipment?
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Dennis Dillon in Idaho usually has the best deals on RAM1500s in the country. But I'm new to Jeeps, so I don't know how they do in that department. Check 'em out!

But I have a question: Since almost all new vehicles come with a/c and cruise, is there a concern that a Jeep wouldn't have that as standard equipment?
Believe it or not, AC is an option on the base jeep wrangler. Its a $1,290 option, to be exact! OUCH
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Worst thing I ever did when I was younger was buy a new car off the lot. Sh*t happens. 2010 jk got repoed cause life.
But since I’ve got a builtish yj and dd a cj5. Best decision I’ve ever made.
If you have a dad save your money and wait for used market to calm down. Wait to spend that cash on a house or something.
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Believe it or not, AC is an option on the base jeep wrangler. Its a $1,290 option, to be exact! OUCH
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... Are within a reasonable distance to McLaren VA? Koons CJDR does a group buy on most Jeeps. that is usually 4-8% below invoice on a factory order. You need to deal with the Internet sales manager but those who have used them say it's a painless process. They had been doing JL's as part of the group buy recently.
As stated, this is a very viable option.
We got a new factory ordered 2019 GC Trailhawk from [email protected]
They also offer the same deal off the lot.
None of the dealerships in FL could come close to their deal on the exact same speced vehicle.
We rented a car and drove up, however they offer free pickup at the local airport.
You must deal with Craig to get the deal. Simply build the vehicle you want on Jeep.com and send him the build. He will get back to you with a very detailed price quote, no hidden fees.

I have absolutely no ties with Koons, just a very happy customer. It was the best dealership purchase I've ever had.
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