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post #1 of 34 Old 09-13-2020, 04:05 PM Thread Starter
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Wheel Beadlocks or Tire Beadlocks

Hi guys, so this Jeep is actually my first truck ever! I got it as a graduation gift. I want to do it up badazz. Im first looking at changing the boring wheels and tires. I love the look of Nitto Dune Grapplers. They have rubber injection molded bead bolts built right into the tire but the Rockstar wheels I want also have bead bolts machined into the surface.

Will the rubber beadlocks work well with the machined bead bolts? or will this combination just not work? I'm thinking have 2 sets of bead bolts, one on the tire and one on the wheel, would not only look badazzz but also do whatever bead bolts are supposed to do twice as good.

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post #2 of 34 Old 09-13-2020, 04:14 PM
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both are fake bead locks, so they do nothing. It is all looks. You dont really want real bead locks for street use. No one will mount them, you get to do it. Most are not DOT, so they are for off road use. Real bead locks start in the 400$ range each.

To answer your question that tire will mount on any type wheel. Look up say Race Line bead locks to get an idea what they look like and maybe look at you tube to see how they bolt the ring over the bead. with real bolts.
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You dont really want real bead locks for street use. No one will mount them, you get to do it. Most are not DOT, so they are for off road use
There's literally no such thing as a DOT compliant bead lock wheel. The Federal DOT has no testing program or approval process for them, they don't care. DOT "compliant" beadlock wheels is pure marketing smoke and mirrors.

Beadlocks are legal in all but 3 states. Two of them are Utah and New Jersey, the third was added in the last couple years but I forget which state it is.

Beadlocks are definitely completely legal there in Arizona. Bead lock wheels are only illegal in the 3 states that specifically made them illegal.

I have a copy of a letter from the Federal DOT confirming there is no DOT approval process for bead lock wheels therefore there is no such thing as a DOT approved/compliant beadlock wheel.
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Thanks! I want it more for looks than function anyway. On the pic from Nittos site. They show the rubber injection molded beadlocks paired with the machined on the wheel so I guess the combo works. I just don't want too many beadlocks detracting from the flame tread
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Beadlocks are legal in all but 3 states. Two of them are Utah and New Jersey, the third was added in the last couple years but I forget which state it is.
Probably Va. Everything is illegal here.

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Thanks! I want it more for looks than function anyway. On the pic from Nittos site. They show the rubber injection molded beadlocks paired with the machined on the wheel so I guess the combo works. I just don't want too many beadlocks detracting from the flame tread
Is that a picture of an alien?
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Form over Function? Me its function first. care less how it looks.

Dose DOT test anything really? Or is it more a standard of production levels?

Me i dont care my self. My jeep has no air bags as well. They went off on there own and after that i knew i would NEVER have them in a Jeep again. Fiat did nothing about it as well, refereed me to their legal department. I am not made of money and not one lawyer would take it up as well. No money in it... So FLUSH Fiat they coitus them self's. I would never buy another Fiat product even if that means getting a horse if they were last car maker on earth.

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I would never buy another Fiat product even if that means getting a horse if they were last car maker on earth.
Our Wranglers are still being made in America in the same Toledo factory complex the CJ was made in. Jeep has been owned by several companies including Peugeot and it's time we moved on from Fiat's financial interest in the company. Nope, our Wranglers are not being made in Italy by Italians, it's still American made and designed. Period. Does Jeep import something made by the Italians? Yes, but it's not our beloved Wranglers. It's time to stop whinging about yet another owner of Jeep.
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So I got a quick reply from Nitto about the legality of the rubber injection molded bead bolts on the Dune Grapplers.

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From the pictures of those tires the “rubber injected bead bolts” seem purely for looks. They wouldn’t provide any benefit to mounting the tire/holding the tire to the wheel
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I got the tires today! They are awesome. The bolts are super beefy looking. My only complaint is the “stringers” I emailed Nitto and they claim this is a result of the injection molding process used to create the bolts. They said that these “stringers” can be removed with scissors. I think Nitto should remove these at the factory. This seems to be a flaw in the injection molding process used for these bolts and that has me somewhat concerned about the bolts longevity.

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It not a flaw, it's how injection molding works. Those "stringers" are what allow air to escape from the mold, thus eliminating voids in the tire.

You bought them for looks, so if they bother you just trim them off and it will cause no issues.
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Going to take it to a mechanic. Don’t want to mess up brand new tires.
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Did Nitto let you know what the torque should be on the tire's bolt heads? I know Rockstar wheel bolt heads are around 15ft/lbs, but not sure on what the tire's bolts heads should be torqued to.
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Thanks man, I'll ask the mechanic. There's nothing in the Nitto pamphlet that came with the tires about that. The good news is that if the tire beadlocks fail then the wheel beadlocks will kick in. I jumped a curb today and everything held together like glue. Lovin the Jeep !
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