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post #1 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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The Right Jeep

I bought an XJ jeep and discovered that I bought the wrong jeep.
I think I want a ZJ or a WJ jeep

The ZJ/WJ has two things I want: 1) ABS and 2) SelecTrac. The part-time Command Trac is a joke if you asked me, except for pure off road

I have no aspirations for off roading, maybe a tough dirt road now and again, thats it. One thing I do like about the XJ is its pure simplicity. Roll up windows, etc......you can actually fix it yourself with just an adjustable and a screwdriver.

What do I need to look out for in a used ZJ? It seems like a majority of them had the same straight 6 engine as the XJ. so thats a good start. I have heard the transmissions are sketchy.....

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post #2 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 09:45 AM Thread Starter
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BTW: I realize that it is possible to fins a XJ jeep with these features, but its like finding a needle in a haystack
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post #3 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 10:18 AM
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Im in the same boat as you. I almost bought an xj a few months ago but changed my mind. Ive been looking for a decent zj but its tough to find one the way i want it. Theres tons of wjs forsale but they dont seem to be a solid/reliable a truck as a zj. Also i cant decide if i want the 4.0, 5.2, or 5.9. Lol

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post #4 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 11:33 AM
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Maybe an xj with the 242 tcase is rare, but my brother has one...

Why do you desire the 242 tcase so bad? The 231 is a solid tcase. A lot of people swap out the 249 in the zj's for a 231 and act like its god running their 4wd.

I mean, I like my 242, but its not like I MUST have it.

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post #5 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 12:31 PM
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Theres tons of wjs forsale but they dont seem to be a solid/reliable a truck as a zj. Also i cant decide if i want the 4.0, 5.2, or 5.9. Lol
I find too that the ZJ has better visibility than the WJ. I rented a WJ on Maui soon after buying my ZJ, and was unimpressed by the visibility, lane changes in particular. Of course, most cars are getting worse in that department, necessitating the various back-up cameras and other technologies that weren't necessary when we had bigger windows.
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post #6 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 12:42 PM
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The WK2 is **** for visibility. But so nice for comfort.

I like the V8 in the ZJ over the 4.0. If you're coming from a 4.0 XJ you'll be disappointed by the 4.0 in the ZJ I think. If you like 4 full time I would say look at getting a 5.2 with a 249. The AWD is even better than the 4ft in the 242.

The 231 is exactly what you say it is, the best offroad case they put in these things. The 249 is the best on road case.

As far as transmissions, the 42re they put behind the 4.0 is really just as strong as the XJ AW4. It is a different style of trans though. The 44re behind the second gen V8 is similarly a reasonable trans. The 46 series trans in the first gen V8 and the 5.9 is extremely strong.


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Its funny you say that about a 242/abs xj. Everyone i see in the picknpulls in RI and MA are pretty much all 242 and definitely have abs, so i guess in this neck of the woods they werent that hard to come by originally?

Not sure of your year of xj, but I thought abs came standard after a certain year?

Me personally I wish my ZJ had the 231 and didnt have abs. Id be much happier, but thats me. I have also seen recently on CL in RI, MA, & CT alot of xjs that specifically mention having 242s, might be worth looking into?

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I can't comment on what a WJ is like to own, but if you decide on a ZJ, then it's gonna have to be a 5.9

Don't question it.
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Until gas goes back up. Don't get me wrong, the 5,9 is not all that bad on gas as long as you drive it reasonably. But I know that if I had that beast under my foot I would love it and reason would have nothing to do with it.

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lol...if life is as a simple as a 5.9 making you happy, I'd say go ahead and buy it on impulse. ZJs are the way of Zen. Wax on, wax off
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post #10 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 06:03 PM
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If you want a 4.0, I'd find one with the tow package with 3.73 gears, still a bit of a dog, but moves itself a little better than the 3.55s IMO.

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if you want a 4.0, i'd find one with the tow package with 3.73 gears, still a bit of a dog, but moves itself a little better than the 3.55s imo.


I have the 3.55's, and must concur.
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post #13 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 08:58 PM
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Yeah ill probably get a 5.2 or 5.9. Finding one right now in nj is tough. Im hoping there will be lots of v8 zjs forsale in the spring.

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post #14 of 17 Old 01-29-2015, 09:32 PM
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It's definitely a seasonal thing. Once things warm up and gas prices go up a bit people can't get rid of them fast enough.


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I've got a 95 zj 5.2 ltd upcountry with the 249. (here comes my zj bias) I love the combo of the 5.2 and 46rh transmission. Very durable, and with the 46rh, its arguably stronger than the later models mated to a 44re. The 5.2 is plenty enough to get the beast moving, I have a d35c rear with 3.73 gears (d35c...ehhh?) lol I personally favor the 95's leather over the newer style, seems sturdier. The drawbacks are I don't have OBDII or a 5.9. I sometimes wish I could squeeze just a bit more power from the 5.2, so id imagine a 4.0 to be a dog. If you go out to look at any v8 zj, take a flashlight, lol down the TB, if theres any baked oil, the plenum gasket needs repair. Also, all 4 tires should be closely inspected.1, for size match, 2, for uneven wear. The np249 t case has a rep for a failing viscous coupler.
I wish you the very best in your ZJ hunt!
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