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post #1 of 13 Old 01-19-2020, 03:32 PM Thread Starter
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Opinion on steering replacement.

My tie rod ends and drag link ends are worn out. While lubing up all the joints, they have cracked boots seeping grease..
So obviously two ends are fixed.
I think that's ridiculous so you have to buy a whole rod to get an end..
Anyway what's best, but a new drag link and tie rod or upgrade to OTK steering as to have replaceable ends?


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Is your Jeep lifted or stock height?

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It's has a 6" lift currently.

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After talks with Andy from Ironman 4x4 and research I'm going with all Moog replace ment.
A tech guy from Moog made this. Hope it's helpful to others.
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This reply shows the Moog parts I used on my Up Country ZJ.


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If you going stock style, talk to Kolak about the Crown HD steering upgrade. I’ve been running mine for over 50K miles between 2 ZJs. I’ve also done quite a bit of towing and wheeling in the Rockies and the Crown kit is holding up nicely.

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If you going stock style, talk to Kolak about the Crown HD steering upgrade. I’ve been running mine for over 50K miles between 2 ZJs. I’ve also done quite a bit of towing and wheeling in the Rockies and the Crown kit is holding up nicely.
Ok thanks man.
Is crown comparable to Moog quality.

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The Crown HD setup is good, I ran it until I upgraded to WJ parts. My only complaint was that the Crown TRE boots were pretty crap, I replaced them with Energy ones after they split.
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I’m also running energy suspension dust boots, but Kolak claims crown has upgraded their boots after he raised the issue with them.

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Ok, I know I am very new to all this, but......

Isn't there a significant issue with him using stock moog set-up on a 6 inch lift? Steering geometry is going to be way off.
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Ok, I know I am very new to all this, but......

Isn't there a significant issue with him using stock moog set-up on a 6 inch lift? Steering geometry is going to be way off.
I have a few thread with various issues I've tried to get some input..
But I am going to purchase 4.5 coils from kolak, so I'll be at 4.5.
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Stock steering setup at 4.5" lift isn't ideal either, at 6" it simply sucks. IMHO about 3" is the limit for properly functional steering- and trackbar geometry without going OTK - and even at that height OTK makes a difference.
OTK at 3" lift height will give you stock geometry, OTK @ 6" of lift will be the same as stock steering at three inches of lift. You do need to raise the axle bracket up when going OTK, so it requires welding.


You can run stock- style under-the-knuckle steering at lift heights above 3"-4", but do not expect the steering geometry to be good.

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Stock steering setup at 4.5" lift isn't ideal either, at 6" it simply sucks. IMHO about 3" is the limit for properly functional steering- and trackbar geometry without going OTK - and even at that height OTK makes a difference.
OTK at 3" lift height will give you stock geometry, OTK @ 6" of lift will be the same as stock steering at three inches of lift. You do need to raise the axle bracket up when going OTK, so it requires welding.


You can run stock- style under-the-knuckle steering at lift heights above 3"-4", but do not expect the steering geometry to be good.
That's a very thought out answer and I appreciate it very much very good explanation. What would be your recommendations on a steering upgrade for a four and a half inch lift.

I don't know how wranglers get away with that all I see are lifted wranglers everywhere and they are pretty high and it looks like stock steering?

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