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post #1 of 279 Old 06-01-2018, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
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Project "Que Grandica" - DirectMatrix's ZJ Thread

Hey ZJ'ers!

Popping in from the YJ /f12 side. I came across a deal I couldn't pass up.

1994 ZJ Laredo, 5.2L V8, 86,xxx miles, one owner for $200. It was a bit of an unknown risk as it has sat for several years in a sideyard, but I couldn't pass it up for $200 with such low mileage.

On the immediate to-do list is to diagnose the no start condition, then onto fluid changes and a tune up. I spent last weekend dropping the tow bar, dropping the fuel tank, draining the old fuel and changing the fuel filter.

The upcoming weekends will probably be spent running through the "dirty dozen", plugs, wires, cap and rotor and dropping the oil pan to take a looksie. I'll dive into the no start condition head first over the next couple weekends and see where that gets me. I'd like to have it running well by July.

After that, I'll need tires and a new headlight and I need to check on the condition of the front and rear brakes.

I wasn't looking for a project as I already have one with my YJ, but the guy was going to junk it and I couldn't let that happen.

I plan to post a few times as I work through the issues from the perspective of knowing little about the vehicle's history. Hopefully, it'll help others tackle projects like this one that were destined for the scrap yard.

More to come and a few pics attached.

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~DM


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post #2 of 279 Old 06-01-2018, 02:47 PM
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Good find.


Id start with a shot of trans fluid in each cylinder to help break free any rust.

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post #3 of 279 Old 06-03-2018, 09:53 PM
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Niiiiice find. Steal of a deal

98 Laredo ZJ 4L -3.73, 5.9 "ultrastar" rims, slotted brakes, Dynomax turbo, CAI.
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Didn't get much done this past weekend.

Drained the coolant using a hand pump as the drain on the radiator wasn't doing anything.
Changed the front diff fluid, new gasket and painted the cover while it was off.
Changed the trans fluid, new filter and gasket and adjusted the rear band while the pan was off.
Removed all the oil pan bolts but can't get the oil pan out. I assume the exhaust cross pipe needs to be removed to get the pan out.
Removed the starter so I can clean the contacts and get a looksie at the flywheel.
Oil filter must have been torqued on by King Kong, then Superman. Haven't been able to get it off yet, but I'm working on it.

If I have to remove the exhaust pipe to get the oil pan out, that will add work I hadn't anticipated. Bolts are very rusted and the cat and downpipe are probably rust-frozen together.

More to do this coming weekend.

~DM
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Good find.


Id start with a shot of trans fluid in each cylinder to help break free any rust.
How much in each? I thought about getting a cheap USB boroscope to check out the top of the pistons and cylinder walls also. I'm guessing they are bone dry from sitting for so long and I worry about scoring the walls when I crank it over. Suggestions?

~DM

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What does the 2TFA and 28F Customer Preferred Package from the build sheet get me?

It looks like @wingless has already stated in a previous post that 28F gets me a power antenna.

What else?

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Yes, my ZJ was special-ordered by me to include the package 28F.

For 1994, the power antenna is included with either Infinity Gold system, the cassette or the CD system. In my case the package 28F includes that Infinity Gold upgrade as part of that group, which was also available as an individual Infinity Gold option.

The 1994 Laredo Package 28F includes these items:
  • Laredo Decor Group
  • Mirrors - Dual Electric
  • Power Group, Windows + Doors, plus Keyless Entry
  • Protection Group
  • Aluminum Wheels - Sport
  • Console - Overhead
  • Glass - Sunscreen Deep Tinted
  • Luxury Group - Power Seats and Auto Headlamps, plus Vehicle Information Center (poorly soldered VIC joints, no extra charge)
  • Infinity Gold AM/FM/Cassette
  • Security Group (Anti-Theft)
  • All-the-time 4WD

All for a sticker cost of $4,764.
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Yes, my ZJ was special-ordered by me to include the package 28F.

For 1994, the power antenna is included with either Infinity Gold system, the cassette or the CD system. In my case the package 28F includes that Infinity Gold upgrade as part of that group, which was also available as an individual Infinity Gold option.

The 1994 Laredo Package 28F includes these items:
  • Laredo Decor Group
  • Mirrors - Dual Electric
  • Power Group, Windows + Doors, plus Keyless Entry
  • Protection Group
  • Aluminum Wheels - Sport
  • Console - Overhead
  • Glass - Sunscreen Deep Tinted
  • Luxury Group - Power Seats and Auto Headlamps, plus Vehicle Information Center (poorly soldered VIC joints, no extra charge)
  • Infinity Gold AM/FM/Cassette
  • Security Group (Anti-Theft)
  • All-the-time 4WD

All for a sticker cost of $4,764.
Pretty decent deal in 1994!

Well now the picture is starting to become clearer regarding deciphering parts of my build sheet. However, I just noticed the build sheet says specifically that it has a power antenna. That should be fun when the time comes.
  • ADBP Protection Group
  • ADCS Convenience Group
  • AFFP Luxury Group
  • AHX Trailer Tow Group IV
  • AJBP Security Group
  • APAS Monotone Paint
  • ARNP Laredo Decor Group (97-02-26)
  • AWHP Power Equipment Group
  • BARS 90 Amp Alternator
  • BCES 600 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
  • BGKS 4-Wheel Anti-Lock Brakes
  • CADP Cloth High Back Bucket Seats
  • CFNS Rear 60/40 Folding Seat
  • CGTS Driver Air Bag Only
  • CKDP Floor Carpet
  • CKNS Cargo Compartment Carpet
  • CKRP Cargo Net
  • CKTP Cargo Tie Down Loops
  • CKVP Cargo Area Storage
  • CLEP Front & Rear Floor Mats
  • CSAS Spare Tire Cover
  • CSCP Cargo Compartment Cover
  • CSRS Passenger Assist Handles
  • CUFS Full Length Floor Console
  • CUNP Overhead Console
  • CXHS Steering Column Locking Slip Collar
  • DGB All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions
  • DGRS 4-Spd. Automatic 46RH Transmission
  • DHAS Lock-Up Torque Converter
  • DHRS Quadra-Trac "On Demand" 4WD System
  • DMEP 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio
  • DRMS Dana 35C/194MM Rear Axle
  • ELF 5.2L V8 MPI Engine
  • GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass
  • GCBS Front Door Tinted Glass
  • GEGP Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
  • GFAS Rear Window Defroster
  • GNCP Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
  • GNKP Rear View Auto Dim Mirror
  • GRKP Left Power Mirror
  • GSKP Right Power Mirror
  • GTKP Power Mirrors
  • GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
  • GXMP Keyless Entry with Panic Alarm
  • HAAS Air Conditioning
  • HGAS Hood Insulation
  • HGDS Deluxe Insulation Group
  • JAYS DO NOT USE - See JP, KA classes
  • JCDS 100 MPH Primary Speedometer
  • JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
  • JHBS Rear Window Wiper/Washer
  • JJAS Cigar Lighter
  • JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns
  • JKAS Locking Glove Box
  • JKDS Remote Fuel Door Release
  • JPAP Power Windows
  • JPBP Power Locks
  • JPTP DO NOT USE - See C4, C6 classes
  • KGFS
  • KRAS
  • KTAP
  • K4AP
  • K5AP
  • LACP Illuminated Entry
  • LAGP Warning Chime
  • LAZP Vehicle Information Center
  • LBBS Courtesy Lamps
  • LBCS Glove Box Lamp
  • LBDS Ash Tray Lamp
  • LDAS Underhood Lamp
  • LDBS Cargo Compartment Lamp
  • LETP Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
  • LMGP Automatic Headlamps
  • LPSS CHMSL Lamp
  • LSAP Security Alarm
  • MDAP Front License Plate Bracket
  • MFZP Bright Grille
  • MHAS Black Windshield Moldings
  • MWGS Roof Rack
  • NAAS Federal Emissions
  • NF5S
  • NHMP Speed Control
  • NMCP Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
  • PX8 Black Clear Coat
  • QX8S Black Clear Coat
  • RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles
  • RBC AM/FM Comp Disc Radio w/Equalizer
  • RCGP 6 Speakers
  • RDCP Power Antenna
  • SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering
  • SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
  • SDAS Normal Duty Suspension
  • SUAP Tilt Steering Column
  • TBB Full Size Spare Tire
  • TBLS Inside Mounted Spare Tire
  • TRN P225/75R15 OWL Wrangler AT Tires
  • TZAS Goodyear Brand Tires
  • WJ6P 15X7.0 Sport Aluminum Wheels
  • WKBP Matching Spare Wheel
  • WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
  • YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications
  • YGGA 9 Additional Gallons of Gas
  • ZFNP Spring - Left Front
  • ZJTP Spring - Left Rear
  • ZTMP
  • ZWTP
  • Z6BS GVW/Payload Rating
  • 1AAS U.S. Dealer Retail
  • 135S Zone 35-Washington
  • 2TFA Customer Preferred Package 2TF
  • 28F Customer Preferred Package 28F
  • 3C3A V-8 Bonus Discount
  • 3VSA Customer Preferred Discount 4EA Sold Vehicle
  • 4X7A Virginia Chapter-90 Recovery
  • 647S Virginia State Code
  • 947S Virginia State Code

~DM

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Removed all the oil pan bolts but can't get the oil pan out. I assume the exhaust cross pipe needs to be removed to get the pan out.

If I have to remove the exhaust pipe to get the oil pan out, that will add work I hadn't anticipated. Bolts are very rusted and the cat and downpipe are probably rust-frozen together.
This reply shows the only way to remove the oil pan w/o extra steps.

This reply shows how I cut the exhaust manifold to wye pipe flange nuts, plus the parts I used for replacement.

This reply shows the best way to replace the fasteners on the passenger's side rear exhaust flange. It is a two-person job. (It is possible w/ one person w/ lots of extra effort and w/ several one foot extensions to prop against the ground while positioning the fasteners on the top.)
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This reply shows the only way to remove the oil pan w/o extra steps.

This reply shows how I cut the exhaust manifold to wye pipe flange nuts, plus the parts I used for replacement.

This reply shows the best way to replace the fasteners on the passenger's side rear exhaust flange. It is a two-person job. (It is possible w/ one person w/ lots of extra effort and w/ several one foot extensions to prop against the ground while positioning the fasteners on the top.)
Incredibly helpful information especially because I'm just getting into this and haven't gotten serious about searching all my issues. I really appreciate your proactive approach in addressing my issues.

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Glad to help.

Good luck. Have fun.


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How much in each? I thought about getting a cheap USB boroscope to check out the top of the pistons and cylinder walls also. I'm guessing they are bone dry from sitting for so long and I worry about scoring the walls when I crank it over. Suggestions?

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2 or 3 capfulls down a small funnel should be more than enough.


The bore scope idea wouldn't hurt but finding a decent one that wont break the bank isn't easy

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The Mopar 5302 0419 ignition cable heat shield will guide fluid into the spark plug opening and will restrict fluid from exiting the cylinder though the spark plug opening during cranking.

Care must be exercised if fluid is added if these shields are present to avoid the possibility of hydro locking the engine.




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The Mopar 5302 0419 ignition cable heat shield will guide fluid into the spark plug opening and will restrict fluid from exiting the cylinder though the spark plug opening during cranking.

Care must be exercised if fluid is added if these shields are present to avoid the possibility of hydro locking the engine.
Yes, the shields are present. I will heed your warning. Thanks again!

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The bore scope idea wouldn't hurt but finding a decent one that wont break the bank isn't easy
I'm probably only setting myself up for disappointment, but I ordered this yesterday and it'll be at my door Friday so I can play with it over the weekend.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077TSCFSX

I guess we'll see what happens. The video in the reviews of a guy using it to snake down the spark plug hole of his ATV was what sold me on it because I want it for the exact same purpose for multiple cars.

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