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post #1 of 34 Old 11-29-2019, 06:36 AM Thread Starter
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Mevotech vs. Crown vs. Omix-Ada

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I'm doing front unit bearings, ball joints and brakes on my 96 ZJ lifted 4.5". I'm going to do tie rods while I'm in there, and I've been pricing replacement parts. Wondering if I could get some opinions on brands you guys have had luck with. I've owned Jeeps for years but it's been a slice since I replaced any hard parts, I'm not sure where quality lies with these brands anymore.

These prices are for the drag link, tie rod, tie rod ends (2) and adjustment sleeves (2) shipped to me:

Mevotech (via Rock Auto) $120
Omix-Ada (via Amazon) $104
Crown Automotive (via Summit) $155

The Crown and the Omix appear to be greasable. The Mevotech's not so much. I know I could spring for Moog stuff but it pushes the price way up and I've heard that Moog isn't what it used to be anyway.

I'm open to opinions. This isn't a daily driver, but it will be wheeled (nothing hard core). Already has a new-ish adjustable IRO track bar that went on with the lift, so I won't be changing that.


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post #2 of 34 Old 11-29-2019, 06:56 AM
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I've heard the same thing about Moog quality going downhill, but the only problem I've had has been with ball joints wearing out faster than expected under heavy use. No other issues with TREs or ball joints. Keep in mind if you use knurled ball joints you won't be able to use smooth ball joints after that.
I mostly use Moog and Spicer for TREs/ ball joints, and Spicer only for U-joints. Timken has been my choice for bearings, but recently there have been numerous cases with low quality Timken unit bearings. So might be better off buying SKF. It might've been a bad batch from Timken, but a quality manufacturer should NOT have things like that happen.

Unfortunately almost everything is manufactured in cheap-labor countries these days, no matter of brand. Some have better materials and quality control as others.

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I already got the Spicer ball joints and, having heard the same thing about Timken, I went with Detroit Axle bearings because I heard good things. We'll see how that works out.

Mainly concerned about the tie rods. The Moog's are definitely priced as the "high end" product. I just don't know if it's worth it.

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I have the same Moog TREs in my ZJ that I bought in 2012 when I did the WJ brake & knuckle swap. Plenty of wheeling and about 50k miles of road use, zero play in them. I've hit a couple rocks on the trails that have bent my front wheel, TREs showing no signs of failure.
I bought a new set of Moog TREs past summer so I've got 'em ready if needed.

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Just for poops and grins I priced the Moog stuff. It'd be $200 shipped from Rock Auto. So $100 more than my least expensive option and $45 more than the most. Not unreasonable but if the quality is the same and it's all off-shore stuff...what's the difference.

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If the Moogs stay good about twice as long as the cheap crap - which I definitely expect 'em to do - it's easily worth double the cost. It's not just the part price, but also count in the work you need to do and the alignment.

A lot of OEM parts are manufactured abroad*, so there's nothing special about that. Quality control and materials are the key things, not necessarily where the part is manufactured.
I certainly liked to see parts manufactured locally, but at that point we all would need to be ready to pay 20-30% more for the same stuff.


* For example plenty of Magnum engines were manufactured in Saltillo engine pant. They currently manufactures Hemi engines including the SRT and Hellcat versions.
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For your unit bearings and drag link try pricing TJ parts I've heard the tj unit bearings are better and usually tj stuff is cheaper

For your TREs make sure you get ones for a V8 zj their a little bit beefier

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post #8 of 34 Old 11-29-2019, 09:14 PM
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my entire front is mevotech premium. ball joints, TRE and track bar. had a boot tear and they sent a new one no questions asked. i used mevotech on my front axle rebuild of my 83 chevy k10 as well.

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All the Crown steering components have been excellent over the years. I've been a Crown dealer for over 15 years now and an authorized Vendor here on the forum for that long as well.

I'm direct with Crown - no middleman so I have great prices and any warranty issues are handled _without_ having to return an old part first.

I'd certainly appreciate your business. If you'd like to chat, please PM me here on the forum or email me at [email protected]
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No matter what forum you go to you hear the same thing about parts. Doing your own research seems to be the best way of selecting a brand. Another thing that enters my mind is Moog has been around longer than all the other newer brands that popped up recently combined. I've haven't had an issue with any of the moog parts i bought though have heard the same about them. Another major factor is you need to keep any brand you buy lubricated. So don't skimp on grease or the quality of it. You may want to look up parts locally, The price to ship a heavy part from rockauto may be cheaper to buy the same part locally.
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Moog, as a brand, was acquired by federal mogul from cooper in '98, and that was before federal mogul filed for chapter 11 in '02. On the other hand, omix-ada has been more or less the same jeep focused company since being founded in '92.

The part you get from moog, omix-ada, and crown may well be the exact same part, made in the same factory. Holding a crown TRE next to a moog TRE, I can't discern a quality difference, and I've had both fail from trail abuse.

I've got crown hd linkages from kolak on most of our jeeps at the moment. The exception being the IRO linkage on the green pig, which may turn into a crown linkage in the next few weeks anyway.


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All the Crown steering components have been excellent over the years. I've been a Crown dealer for over 15 years now and an authorized Vendor here on the forum for that long as well.

I'm direct with Crown - no middleman so I have great prices and any warranty issues are handled _without_ having to return an old part first.

I'd certainly appreciate your business. If you'd like to chat, please PM me here on the forum or email me at [email protected]
Wish I saw this sooner.

I ended up going with Mevotech stuff, seemed like decent middle of the road products based on reviews and photographs I could find. In the end as long as the stuff is grease-able, it's probably more or less the same quality wise. For a trail rig, I'm sure it'll be capable as long as I keep pumping fresh grease into it.

We'll see what I looks like when it gets here.

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Ive got 2 Moog balljoints that have failed in less than a year with street only driving.

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Ive got 2 Moog balljoints that have failed in less than a year with street only driving.
I think you a problem then I've only ran moog on all my vehicles and I grease my stuff maybe once a year zero problems after 4 years

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I think you a problem then
Sure do. Its crap Moog Quality


Ive run Moog every chance I got in all my other vehicles with no issues. They have nose dived into mediocrity

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