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post #1 of 9 Old 08-05-2019, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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Had the guy at the tire store shake down the jeep. Seems like everything is wrong with it.
All 4 ball joints
Tie rod end at the pitman arm
steering stabilizer
Just watched a video on youtube from 1a products showing how to replace the ball joints. Yikes!! never replaced ball joints or steering stabilizer. i have replaced tie rods.
How hard is this really going to be?
Any ideas on time for a ball joint novice?
Anything I can do weeks before I start tearing this apart to make it easier?
Same questions in regards to the steering stabilizer.
it will take me a few paychecks to round up all the parts.
Feeling...overwhelmed!!

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post #2 of 9 Old 08-05-2019, 05:27 PM
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All my bushings and control arms were replaced w/ Moog, as-shown in this reply to restore like-new handling.


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post #3 of 9 Old 08-06-2019, 12:44 AM
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Here is a good run down on ball joints. I’ve never had to do this before myself but this guy seems to know what he’s doing.

https://youtu.be/SwXcmyKIHXI
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It's not as daunting as you think it is. gather parts and tools (or rent the tools) before you begin. Don't cheap out on parts. Get good ones.

Are you lifted at all? Any suspension mods? I've been running a 5.5" lift on 33s for over 5 years without a steering stabilizer with zero issues.

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post #5 of 9 Old 08-06-2019, 09:03 AM
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All 4 ball joints
Tie rod end at the pitman arm
steering stabilizer
Just watched a video on youtube from 1a products showing how to replace the ball joints. Yikes!! never replaced ball joints or steering stabilizer. i have replaced tie rods.
How hard is this really going to be?
Any ideas on time for a ball joint novice?
Anything I can do weeks before I start tearing this apart to make it easier?
Same questions in regards to the steering stabilizer.
it will take me a few paychecks to round up all the parts.
Feeling...overwhelmed!!
Pre repair hints. For all the bolts I would suggest spraying them with a penetrating oil twice a day for a week. I used this stuff
https://www.walmart.com/ip/LIQUID-WR...4b86d750c40ff6
when I was doing the headers on my Dakota. Smelled something awful when it burned off but only 2 studs broke (and looking at the break face you could see it was due to prior existing cracks).


Steering stabilizer is probably the easiest part to replace on this list. The hardest part will be the bolt at the axle side.


The tie rods are not terribly difficult however they can sometime be a pain to get them to come free. That's where a good heavy hammer come in.


Ball joints. Ive been turning a wrench professionally for the last 14 years. Ive done everything from bulb replacements to engine ovehauls to custom metal fabrication. I hate doing ball joints. Getting the old ones out wasn't bad with a 1/2 drive ratchet, a cheater pipe, and a small sledge. Getting the bottom one in wasn't the most fun thing but the uppers took me almost a day combined. The issue is the lack of flat surface on the inner side of the axle caused the ball joint to want to cant off to one side. Even using all my tricks including a deep freeze of the joints for a whole week. I'm not saying you cant or shouldn't do them. Just be aware of the issues you will run into.


The best overall advice to you:
1) If you aren't sure about something ask. No one here will look funny at you for wanting to make sure you know how to do the job correctly.
2) Use quality parts. No one want to do a job twice.)
3) Take your time. Check over all your work and ensure all the bolts are tight and everything is where it should be. When you are done checking everything check it again. Last thing you want is to miss tightening a bolt and have something come loose while you are driving.

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post #6 of 9 Old 08-06-2019, 09:29 AM
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Get the spicer ball joints, you wont regret it.

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post #7 of 9 Old 08-06-2019, 09:35 AM
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I just replaced all my suspension control arms, track bars, and steering with Crown parts from Nick with Kolak Performance.
Great Prices from him...he beat everybody.
Only thing I didn't replace were the Ball Joints and sway bar components....waiting on my replacement Addco sway bars.
It's a daily driver so stock items were just fine for me.

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post #8 of 9 Old 08-06-2019, 09:44 AM
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KD Tools (available at NAPA) has a Dodge/Jeep 4WD Dana ball joint tool set. This correctly fits for both removal AND install. You CAN rent a removal tool at Auto Zone or Oreilly's, BUT YOU WILL NEED pieces from this KD set as the ones in the rental kit are not specific to the Dana. I've had this set for 10 years, and will NEVER try to remove joints without it. Notice the cut-out on the larger socket...that will save your fingers and a visit to the ER.

Just check with the parts guys to make sure the ZJ hasn't changed on the axle you have.
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post #9 of 9 Old 08-06-2019, 02:16 PM
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You can remove the axle shaft and bearing as one. Unless you need to replace the bearing. Rent a ball joint kit from the parts store. Take your time and use YouTube.
The new spicer joints I got fit loose due to the old balljoints knurled surface. I had to peen the inside of the mounting surface. After that it was very difficult to press in. I had to use a long piece of pipe as a breaker bar.

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