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post #1 of 20 Old 10-18-2021, 07:18 AM Thread Starter
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electric fan options

Hey guys,
yesterday i granaded the third efan in less then a year:

1st: i simply bought the wrong one (my fault)

2nd: a blade broke off and impaled the radiator (ebay universal one, got refunded)

3rd: shroud snapped and carked the fan (stock 5.9 fan). i think because i have a bigger full aluminum radiator which makes installation (even for a stock efan lil harder than stock), and the shroud itself won't fit exactly on the radiator.

i'm located in italy and at the moment i can't find a stock 5.9 replacement.
i have 2 spares efan motor, but no fan and no shroud.


at this point, which are my options? keep looking for a niner one? taurus?
anyone on the forum have access to a couple of taurus complete efan assembly and he is willing to ship to florida (i'm initaly, but i have a friend in florida who can take care of international shipping to make things easier).
or, what exactly taurus efan am i looking for? year? 90-95?


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post #2 of 20 Old 10-18-2021, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/20353279073...Cclp%3A2334524

something like this?

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I won't speak to the fitment of the Taurus fan on the ZJ. There are threads out there.

It's a good choice for a lot of cars, but there are a lot of good fan options out there. I think IMS that there are some dual fan set ups that fit the ZJ radiator better.

FWIW I have a Taurus fan on my turbo car. The junkyard one I put on years ago just went out and smoked my wiring. I'm replacing with a RockAuto version. They are pretty cheap and seem well made. One kinda big caveat at the moment is that there is zero stock on the harness side plug for the Taurus fan. That's going to be a junkyard item or you'll end up cutting off the fan plug and using something else. I went with MetriPack 630 series parts. They are rated to the amp draw on that fan (GM used them for radiator fan plugs).
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Since you’re in Europe, I’d look for a 9141249 Volvo fan. Should look something like this - https://www.amazon.com/URO-Parts-914.../dp/B0066RHUJK

The motor is the same as the niner/Taurus and it should be easy to fab up a simple fan shroud that fits your radiator better.


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I have stock niner efan in Albuquerque.
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Since youre in Europe, Id look for a 9141249 Volvo fan. Should look something like this - https://www.amazon.com/URO-Parts-914.../dp/B0066RHUJK

The motor is the same as the niner/Taurus and it should be easy to fab up a simple fan shroud that fits your radiator better.
^ This exactly.

It's pretty easy to wire in a BMW e-fan temp switch (has dual switches in single unit, works in upper radiator hose with a suitable adapter) and a Volvo relay pack.
All of these parts are fairly easy to find here in Europe and don't cost much.

That being said, a stock 5.9 fan setup is the easiest option. I had to shave the sides of my e-fan shroud with the aftermarket all- aluminum radiator to make the e-fan fit properly.

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Since youre in Europe, Id look for a 9141249 Volvo fan. Should look something like this - https://www.amazon.com/URO-Parts-914.../dp/B0066RHUJK

The motor is the same as the niner/Taurus and it should be easy to fab up a simple fan shroud that fits your radiator better.
Well dang. That is a nice looking fan. And easy to bolt to a aftermarket shroud...

Where were you a couple months ago kg6mov? I've been trying to figure out how to mount and seal the Taurus fan to my Speedway Motors universal shroud for my turbo car and was resigned that I was going to have to fire up the TIG to make things work.

It looks like it uses standard Yazaki plugs too. I'm going to order the clearance VDO part on RockAuto ($50!). If I can figure out the other side of the plugs I'll report back.
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ok guys, thanks for the clarification

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post #9 of 20 Old 10-21-2021, 09:53 AM
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If you decide to go with the Volvo fan and want the OEM wire connector to match here are the Yazaki (OEM supplier) part numbers.

Two pin plug:
Housing - 7222-4220-40 (grey) or 7222-4220-30 (black)
Rear holder - 7157-6800-80
Terminals - 7114-3250
Seals - 7157-3580-60 (preferred) or 7157-3581-80 (acceptable)

One pin plug:
Housing - 7123-4110 (natural) or 7123-4113-30 (black)
Back cap - 7157-6411-70 (natural) or 7157-6411-40 (black)
Terminal - 7116-3250

The downside is that some of those parts are out of stock or have big minimum quantities at online suppliers. Supply chain issues have hit this industry hard. But I think that this site will be of help:
https://www.prancingmoose.com/blackv...elaycoolingfan

They have the terminals and seals. The one-pin connector they sell is not the same one, but it does use the same terminal so it can be swapped onto the fan if you buy both male and female sides. Then all you need to source is the two-pin housing and rear holder. Which you can get here: https://www.questcomp.com/

And there you go.
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Interestingly, the VDO fan I bought on RockAuto is not the same motor as the Taurus fan. Some of the other options look to be though. The VDO is a two-wire motor and they added what looks to be a resistor to bring the low speed down. VDO is pretty reliable so it's not bothering that much. I would have bought another option though if I had known. The Volvo fan and Taurus fan are still rated at the same CFM though so it shouldn't matter.
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thanks for the infos, will keep you updated.

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I recieved all the parts for the wire connectors on the Volvo fan and they all check out. The terminals were a little different part number than I assumed so I updated the list above.

On my VDO fan none of the connectors were sealed. Stock the one terminal connector is not sealed, the two terminal should be sealed (it's designed to be sealed). Of course VDO didn't use actual Yazaki parts, some kind of cheap knockoff was installed. I ended up swapping both connectors on the fan just to be sure.

You definitely can just de-pin the one terminal connector that comes with the fan and stick it in the housing from Dave's Volvo. You can even slide a brown seal over the terminal if you want. They fit. I swapped the whole thing just because I had the parts.

I crimped these with my Iwiss 5100A, but I modified mine (already done, not specific to this job) by grinding the end thinner to better match the terminals. FWIW it crimped best on the #2 crimp pressure setting. Easily met USCAR pull out force specs.

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hey guys,
easiest solution was the taurus efan. got it from rockauto (the tyc one). also plenty of them on ebay.
stared to install it, both speeds work fine.

i'm wondering how to attach it to the upper radiator support. i can simply cut some L shaped bracket, but it doesn't look that good beacuse the efan is sitting a lil lower than the stock one so the bracket needs to be super long , like 6/7 inches. with the bracket that long the bracket itself is bending and not working properly.
i need a "cleaner" solution.
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/shrug

Just make them cleaner than this and you're ahead of most people:


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