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post #1 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 02:44 PM Thread Starter
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Amazing catch 98 limited

Hey guys! new here. Just found a gem 98 limited and had shipped from Washington st. To Buffalo Ny area. Body and under carriage looks like it's never seem anything but wet roads. Only a handful of stone chips in clear coat. Very well maintained from service file that came with it. Only draw back 204k but runs like a ape....bought as a gift for grand daughter so would like to freshen up. Suggestions???1002211705_1633290190156.jpgClick image for larger version

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post #2 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 03:25 PM
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Welcome to the Forum,
What you have is a great vehicle and on the rare side if taken care of! It is a limited 5.9l model.
Only built one year. Lots of fun for your grand daughter. Only draw back is it likes to drink lots of gas compared to the 4.0l model. Easy to work on, parts are everywhere.
Good luck …….Enjoy!!
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post #3 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 04:22 PM
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FYI, owner's manual specifies premium (93 octane) fuel for the 5.9L.
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post #4 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 05:20 PM
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Amazing catch 98 limited

First thing would be the plenum gasket repair, valve cover gaskets, new plugs and wires routed to the Dodge TSB, and all fresh fluids.
Motor mounts and transmission mount, all control arm bushings. It's easier to just replace the entire arm. All 8.
Put an auxiliary transmission cooler on asap. At that mileage you can expect a rebuild soon.


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post #5 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 05:41 PM
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First thing would be the plenum gasket repair, valve cover gaskets, new plugs and wires routed to the Dodge TSB, and all fresh fluids.
Motor mounts and transmission mount, all control arm bushings. It's easier to just replace the entire arm. All 8.
Put an auxiliary transmission cooler on asap. At that mileage you can expect a rebuild soon.


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I just want to add if you are doing the work yourself the upper front bushings on the axle are a PIA. I literally did mine a week ago. The arms are easy, might need a ratchet strap to pul the axle to get the bolts in here or there.

But as stated, I did a full tune up on mine when I got it. Fluids, check to see if it has the rear main seal leak which seems to be on a lot of the V8's. have the drivetrain inspected, with 200k+ may need some u-joints or CV axles.

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post #6 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 08:38 PM
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Hey guys! new here. Just found a gem 98 limited and had shipped from Washington st. To Buffalo Ny area. Body and under carriage looks like it's never seem anything but wet roads. Only a handful of stone chips in clear coat. Very well maintained from service file that came with it. Only draw back 204k but runs like a ape....bought as a gift for grand daughter so would like to freshen up. Suggestions???
Well, if you didn't know until AlfieD told you, the reason runs like an ape is that it has a 5.9 liter (360 cubic inch) V8. These type of Grand Cherokees were made from late '92 through '98 and that one is the top of the line option. It's the only year they put the 5.9L in them.

If your granddaughter wants something like that, and wants to buy gas for it, fine, but honestly the best idea might be to sell that to an enthusiast and buy her more of a chick vehicle.

Something nobody has mentioned yet is that at 204k the transfer case might be getting on its last legs, unless that is something they had already done.
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post #7 of 27 Old 10-03-2021, 09:56 PM
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The viscous coupler on my 5.9 was shot at 127k when I bought it. On my 5.2 it was starting to go at 130k.
Do some tight turns lock to lock and see how bad the wheel hop and binding is.


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post #8 of 27 Old 10-04-2021, 02:08 AM
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that is one cool niner find!

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post #9 of 27 Old 10-04-2021, 08:31 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the suggestions, will keep reporting on progress.
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post #10 of 27 Old 10-06-2021, 09:56 AM
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I agree the fuel mileage will be oh so bad . BUT IT'll be a fun ZJ.
& there's something about a 5.9L .. They just have that sound akind to an old Harley they just sound tough.
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.....I think my 5.2L has a close to that sound .. I'm loving it but my wife ask a few days ago why don't you have a muffler put on this thing. Yes Dear.
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..............Hope the Grand Daughter thinks it as Cool as us old Classic Guys do.
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post #11 of 27 Old 10-06-2021, 09:19 PM
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Woah!! Nice Jeep! I hope she knows how rare, quick and thirsty they are.

I’ll trade her for literally any 8yr old economy car she wants lol. Because i would give that an amazing home

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post #12 of 27 Old 10-07-2021, 09:53 AM
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I'm wondering why everyone keeps saying how 5.9s are super- thirsty? Real-life city/ highway/ mixed MPG for the 5.2 and 5.9 is pretty much identical - unless you keep doing stupid things with the niner just because smashing the skinny pedal to the metal gives you a good smile every single time.

Driving smartly - which doesn't mean you gotta be slow and sluggish - you can fairly easily get 1-2MPG better fuel mileage than the EPA ratings are for both magnums. Of what I've seen, 4.0 - 5.2 - 5.9 aren't really that far apart in real- life fuel mileage.

I've done road trips with my 5.9 when it was already lifted, turning 32" or 33" mud terrains on 4.56 gears, and the actual calculated MPG based on fuel fill-ups and GPS- verified route miles have been between 14-15.5 mpg. That including city driving, mountain passes in Norway, highway speeds mostly between 65-85mph.
When the niner was stock I averaged ~17-18mpg on highways (55-85mph speeds), about 13-16 mixed city/ highways, and ~11-13 in city traffic.

On the other hand, some wheeling trips I've averaged 5-6mpg

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post #13 of 27 Old 10-07-2021, 01:46 PM
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I'm wondering why everyone keeps saying how 5.9s are super- thirsty? Real-life city/ highway/ mixed MPG for the 5.2 and 5.9 is pretty much identical - unless you keep doing stupid things with the niner just because smashing the skinny pedal to the metal gives you a good smile every single time.

Driving smartly - which doesn't mean you gotta be slow and sluggish - you can fairly easily get 1-2MPG better fuel mileage than the EPA ratings are for both magnums. Of what I've seen, 4.0 - 5.2 - 5.9 aren't really that far apart in real- life fuel mileage.
But if you admit that itís the driver not the motor then you canít be smug about the 4.0 getting better mileage than the 5.9.
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But if you admit that it’s the driver not the motor then you can’t be smug about the 4.0 getting better mileage than the 5.9.
The problem with the 5.9 is the amount of smile you get from the skinny pedal. It is not easy to keep a light foot on it Not meaning to be a smug, but one sort of automatically learns fuel saving methods when gas costs 8-9$/ gallon Thank god it doesn't mean you have to drive like a granny.
A 4.0 XJ/ ZJ can gain up to slightly over 3mpg over a niner in city/ stop-and-go traffic, which certainly is a significant difference. On mixed city/ highway or highway, my 4.0 XJs were only about 1-2mpg better than my niner is. Niner is a crapload faster, so I prefer the smile on my face over a couple MPGs.

My current daily driver is a Mk1 (2004) Ford Focus STW 1.6 with it's massive 100 horses, gets 33mpg average mixed city/ highway - and is probably the slowest vehicle I've ever owned Friend has a 2020 Audi A4, ~240 horses, average mileage for the first year driving 12k miles was 38mpg. I gotta admit technology has gone forward in big leaps, but dear lord how boring a 2020 Audi A4 feels like compared to a lifted XJ or ZJ.
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I got roughly 14mpg on my 5.9 after the plenum repair and tune up ect. That's highway driving with 245/75 16 guard dogs from treadwright. They seemed a bit heavier that most this size.
Stoplight to Stoplight with quick acceleration got me better in town mpg than babying it.
The 5.2 might eek a couple more mpg but it's negligeabl and the 5.9 definitely has more usable power if you need it.
My 6.1 is around 14mpg too if I drive normal which is hard to do. If not it's closer to 10 or less .
My dd in Japan is a 660cc turbo Jimny. I top it off once a month . It's sort of quick though and very light.
Our other traveling car is a 05 Subaru Legacy GT wagon. I'm constantly surprised by how much power this 4 cylinder turbo has and the build quality is really good. Id definitely consider again.


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