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post #28021 of 28327 Old 03-27-2020, 03:03 PM
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I have a question for all the spring over guy. I got the heavy u-bolt plates from Barns and I'm betting that I will need to build a box on top of them to take up space keeping my springs from going to far negative. I know Im not the first guy to do this but I wanted to see how high you folks were running your extensions? [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/JeepForum_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]
Ended up using the stem type BS offered by

https://www.energysuspensionparts.co...bump-stops.asp

9102 specifically.

Drilled and tapped the spring plate. Then trimmed the excess stud off.

Used the shock travel at rest with a little margin for the compression of the frame mounted stops.

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post #28022 of 28327 Old 03-27-2020, 03:04 PM
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Are we going to get in trouble for talking tech here ??
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post #28023 of 28327 Old 03-27-2020, 05:07 PM
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Only if Don gets grumpy again.

I replaced the impeller in my boat today. It really needed it. It's been 5-6 years since it's been done. I'm going to have to do it again soon because the kit didn't have the inner seal and that's the one that's leaking.



Anybody else getting ready for boating season?
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post #28024 of 28327 Old 03-27-2020, 05:42 PM
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Oh you have no idea how ready I am. 0 hrs, never been in the water.
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I need to look at my jetski and get it ready for the water. It died on me last fall and I need to troubleshoot type charging system.

Just another thing on the list lol.
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post #28026 of 28327 Old 03-27-2020, 08:34 PM
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Only if Don gets grumpy again.

I replaced the impeller in my boat today. It really needed it. It's been 5-6 years since it's been done. I'm going to have to do it again soon because the kit didn't have the inner seal and that's the one that's leaking.

Anybody else getting ready for boating season?
WTF?
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No boating. Lake Mead is closed till further notice.
Did you know, Lake Mead is the most deadly National Park?
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Who makes the best quality front end parts? Ball joints, tie-rod ends, ect. I might as well use this time off work for something constructive.
I want the best, preferably made in North America.

From now on I'm making an effort to buy everything from North American. Either USA or Canada.
Right now Wheeler brothers are my go to ball joint. I like them over the Moog, Jasper and AC Delco. The AC Delco however is the only choice if an oversize is needed. Oooops. That is mail truck stuff. Wrong forum. Right?

Seriously, Chris. I install and have installed tons of suspension and steering parts. You know that. Factory stuff usually rocks but there are exceptions. Companies like Moog and TRW were always nice. Delco stuff also. Then it turned into a crapshoot. Some Moog stuff is still really nice. I have seen some of the Moog garbage also. I think some is NOS and some is a new or ever changing vendor so quality varies. Just using Moog as an example. I have pulled front end parts from boxes that have too many company names for me to remember. Some very fine parts are from companies I never heard of and probably never installed that brand again. The same is true about companies I never heard of making junk parts also, except that I will not install them if they appear to be junk out of the box.

A very new Moog part is a center link made for the LLV postal vehicle. It has sealed joints and no grease zerks. It has lock nuts rather than castle nuts and cotter pins. It is a finely crafted and finished part. I believe the coating on it is powder coating. Very nice. Too look at this part, Moog in 2020 is on their game.

I used to love ALL AC Delco parts and most are still really good but some are the cheapest chinese crap made.

Not to pick on Moog but somebody on my side of the country could tell you that Moog ball joints are junk and on your side of the country people could be saying the opposite. It comes down to vendors, buyers, how dated the stock is or isn't on warehouse shelves, a lot of factors.

Hell. I have seen several times throughout my career where you order two of the same part number, like two lower or upper ball joints, tie rods, whatever.... same company... same logo.... different packaging between the pair of parts be it box shape, size, wrapping inside, etc...... and a difference in the parts.

Right now we are dealing with valve cover grommets on the mail truck for the PCV valve and breather elbow. Some are probably original 30 yearish year old stuff, some are on newer Jasper Reman engines, blah blah blah. Lots of them leak and are brittle. We easily replace 50 to 60 grommets in any given week. We have only two sources we can buy these grommets from for a postal vehicle. Jasper or Wheeler brothers. One week I like one company, the next week I like the other. There is a huge difference in quality, rubber hardness, etc. It goes back and forth from company to company and shipment to shipment. The reason I mention this simple grommet is the on the bad ones it is all we can do to install the breather elbow for example without breaking the elbow and it takes time, sweat, muscle and finesse to do this with the valve cover off the vehicle and impossible to do the rear one on the vehicle if you have the crappy ones. I can not determine from week to week which ones to buy.....

What I am saying is try to buy USA and from a reputable place with a good honest return policy. Regardless of brand, really inspect and use your guts on telling you if it is a good part or not.

You know damn well. The most expensive does not always mean the best either.
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post #28028 of 28327 Old 03-27-2020, 09:22 PM
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I'm willing to pay a premium on North American sourced parts. That's one of the problems with Asian parts, consistency and metallurgy. (Japan, Korea excluded)
I found Synergy ball joints for 100 bucks a side. That's okay, now for ball joints, brakes, bearings, the whole thing. I'll have to do some hunting. I was hoping there was a particular brand we could count on.

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March 2020 YJOTM voter thread is up, and the only Sahara missing from it is @Chrisnvegas !

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/...e-now-4392247/

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problems with Asian parts, consistency and metallurgy. (Japan, Korea excluded)
I found Synergy ball joints for 100 bucks a side. That's okay, now for ball joints, brakes, bearings, the whole thing. I'll have to do some hunting. I was hoping there was a particular brand we could count on.
I bought three tie rod ends and two ball joints for $55 total, mail order, and the strength of the ball joints (or lack of) has crossed my mind. The tie rod ends seemed fine but I don’t think I’ll buy cheap again.

[size=“3”]Shackles & D-rings are different things.
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post #28031 of 28327 Old 03-28-2020, 02:35 PM
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We had what I think was a 25ton from Tractor Supply. It worked really well. I was able to split very large digger pine rounds, and it'd even do aged oak. Cycle time was decent.
I stopped by my local Tractor Supply and Lowes today to compare in person.

TS had 3 27T's that looked pretty good for ~$1500, a coupe 20's and a 40
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Do you have a tractor Joe? Growing up we had one that ran off of the hydraulics of a John Deere 450 dozer and would split anything. One section of I-beam, one cylinder, one valve, two hoses, and one cut piece of 1 inch plate to split it against.

EDIT: I was thinking if you had a tractor you might pickup a used unit with a bad engine cheap and just plum it to your tractor.
Naw, no tractor, but my neighbor has one and has come over a few times to help with jobs a tractor can be handy at.
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I have the 3pt hitch mount for my tractor... but been very happy with the powerhorse...

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Since you will have this pretty much the rest of your life, get the best you can.
Bigger engine means less wear when going through knots or funky twists in the grain.

I'd go to a local farm store. If they don't have exactly what you want, they will be happy to order it. Usually you won't pay shipping. If you have a problem, they will be right there without the inconvenience of packing up and shipping back.

Use ethanol-free fuel in it. Ethanol is so bad for engines, especially small engines. The local Kawasaki shop LOVES ethanol. They literally make more from fuel repairs than the sales of new machines.

Change the oil every 20 hours using oil with zinc.
The thing will outlast you!
Good pointers from everybody. Thanks!

The local Lowes had a 37T that was brought back due to a leak. Looked brand new, but still needs to be fixed.

The manager said he'd sell it to me as-is for $900. Retail was ~$1,500 IIRC. They only had one online review for it & it was bad (seized motor). So I'm leery to jump on it. I told him I'd be interested after its fixed.

I'm still looking around. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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WTF?
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No boating. Lake Mead is closed till further notice.
Did you know, Lake Mead is the most deadly National Park?
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Why is it the most deadly? Does the name make alcoholics get all excited and they drown themselves?

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WTF?
Nasty No boating. Lake Mead is closed till further notice. Did you know, Lake Mead is the most deadly National Park?
Why is it the most deadly? Does the name make alcoholics get all excited and they drown themselves?
Probably too many zombies use to visit before they started collecting toilet paper and hand sanitizer

[size=“3”]Shackles & D-rings are different things.
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Anybody else getting ready for boating season?
You betcha - I started checking all the features of my bass boat a couple weeks ago. It's about 95% ready to go. I still need to do a thorough trailer inspection too.
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Why is it the most deadly? Does the name make alcoholics get all excited and they drown themselves?
It has ~7M visitor a year. Lots of drownings, motor vehicle crashes and falls, a few murders too.

With so many crazies from ghetto areas of LA/SoCal and the foolish riff-raff druggies, its a formula for accidental deaths.
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Yep. A lot of people jump off Hoover Dam too. It's similar to the Bay Bridge, or The Golden Gate, whichever. It's really not reported on to keep people from getting the idea in the first place.

It's not really a regular lake that gradually gets deeper, it's a flooded canyon that goes from 5' deep to 300' deep in one step in many places.
Afternoons in July and August, forecasts MUST be carefully watched. It's also surrounded by mountains. There can be a nasty storm, right over there, but you can't see it until it clears the mountain. A marine radio on, at all times is a must on scan. The NPS puts out monsoon storm warnings when they are imminent.

My Storm Story...

It was 4th of July, just before dark. I have a favorite cove to stay overnight. Boat is comfy with on board Mermaid ducted cabin A/C, a rear queen bedroom and the VEE in front is a big bed, also has a nice bathroom. (I'm not a real sailor, so I don't use terminology)
The cove makes two turns so it's isolated from the lake waves.
Kids were in bed, Joanne and me were on the rear deck having a few cocktails, watching the fireworks all over the lake. I saw some lightning way, way off in Arizona somewhere. So far away, no thunder could be heard. But, there was a LOT of lightning. Eventually we went to bed. The motion of the boat woke me up. Than never happens. I went up the stairs, opened the door and went outside, holy sh** we were in a monsoon! Too dark to see except when lightning struck. I fired up the engine and turned on the remote front searchlight. The waves were huge (for a lake) and driving rain, 55 mph winds (I later found out) I pulled up the anchor with the windlass and pointed the boat into the waves. The marine radio was constant "mayday" from all the houseboats adrift and uncontrollable.
The anchor came loose and we somehow drifted out of the cove and into the middle of the lake without hitting the rocky shore. Joanne eventually woke up and came out. She asked me why I was cruising in the storm in the middle up the night. She never fails to ask "those" kinds of questions. Maybe it's the blond hair?
I found a marina on the other side of the lake, it was full, but the NPS let me tie up to the dock behind the breakwater.
The storm was still quite intense. Even that 9000 lb boat was a handful in those waves.
I has a couple more drinks and back to sleep.

The next morning we left the marina. We were supposed to stay another night but the forecast was calling for more of the same. It was around noon but already dark clouds were forming. We saw swamped ski boats adrift, wave runners bobbing around with no people. Houseboats being towed in, lots of chatter on the marine radio about damaged rental houseboats run aground on rocks.
I headed for the launch and packed it up. As others were just launching, we headed for home.
I make sure I pay attention to forecasts now.
My boat is the smallest boat I feel comfortable with on Lake Mead and Lake Powell. The storms can get very intense and because of the size of the lakes, depending of which direction the wind is blowing, the the churning water can get scary at times.

If anyone wants to do a Lake Mead, Lake Powell, Lake Mojave, let me know. The lakes have a good variety of fish and they are underfished, not overfished.
Lake Mojave is a favorite trip. It runs from the base of Hoover Dam to the dam at Lake Havasu.
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