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post #1 of 36 Old 07-24-2019, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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Something Is Amiss!

Can't figure this one out. Thought it might be the way the CJ front end was mounted...did not pan out. Measured from the front spring perches and they were exact. Measured from the frame to the ground on a level surface and sure enough it was 1/2" difference. What could possibly be the problem? Bent Frame?20190724_191131_resized-002-.jpg


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post #2 of 36 Old 07-24-2019, 06:19 PM
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Tweaked frame would be the first thing I'd think, but I'd also think if there's a 1/2" difference from side to side you'd see some cracking of something around the round cross tube up front.

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Tweaked frame would be the first thing I'd think, but I'd also think if there's a 1/2" difference from side to side you'd see some cracking of something around the round cross tube up front.
I will check that out.

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My frame is certainly not square to the ground on all 4 corners. Is it because its 31 years old? Maybe from wheeling it hard? I dunno. I think i was between 1/4 and 1/2" different on the front with the driver side being lower. It drives you crazy when you are mounting up coilovers/ORIs

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Not sure but I wonder if your trac bar might have something to do with it.
Maybe the extension is not long enough? Try unbolting it and see if it makes a difference. Then unbolt the other side and take it off and throw it away.
Since it is one of those fancy telescoping ones, I guess you could do what ever you do to make it telescope. Then throw it away.
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holy smokes batman!

it's busy under there! shiny. but busy!
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Check to make sure the spring hanger on the back end of the spring isn't wore out. That could cause the sagging. For what it worth, my neighbor wrote a book titled Somethings amiss by Dave Benneman.
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Not sure but I wonder if your trac bar might have something to do with it.
Maybe the extension is not long enough? Try unbolting it and see if it makes a difference. Then unbolt the other side and take it off and throw it away.
Since it is one of those fancy telescoping ones, I guess you could do what ever you do to make it telescope. Then throw it away.
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Your p/s spring looks to be a bit flatter than the d/s. It could be a trick of perspective, or maybe my eyes are getting old, but it looks like they don't have the same arch.

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then we figured out what's 'Amiss' - haven't we?
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For one the CJ front end has to be installed with a fully engaged mind in a little body English to level up to the frame anyway because of the way that it mounts. I know this because I did it.

Secondly it appears that your R shackle hanger doesn’t match the height of the L one in relation to the bumper. So there’s a visual compensator that isn’t helping.

3rd, if when you fab’d up everything you weren’t true flat (each corner supported in the same plane dead level as determined by a laser or other method) small discrepancies and past tweaks/events can amplify when on a different surface. If you can level out some pads under the tires the you can measure frame, body, fender mounts, etc and find the “problem.”

Incidentally, on fenders: a 1/8” tweak where fender mounts to body can be 1/2”+ at the front lips. I had to adjust my fenders with hammer and dolly at body bolt vertical, and then shimmy the radiator shell up a squeak on one side for a visual ‘level.’
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[size=3]Shackles & D-rings are different things.
Cranking IS turning over
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For what its worth, springs, bushings, shocks, and yes the tele track bar are all brand new. I replaced everything because of the visual thing thinking the PO springs were sagging (RC's kit). Same effect after all the work.

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Either your bumper or your front clip looks off. Like something's tweaked.

But have you checked the simplest part? The tires? Measure them.

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Weird... I already posted this and it didn't show up.

Have you checked your tires? That'd be the first place I'd check. Measure them out.

Your front clip doesn't look like it lines up with your bumper.

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Weird... I already posted this and it didn't show up.

Have you checked your tires? That'd be the first place I'd check. Measure them out.

Your front clip doesn't look like it lines up with your bumper.
Ya. If the bumper was level with the shackles (frame?) it would be much closer to ‘right’ looking

[size=3]Shackles & D-rings are different things.
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