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post #1 of 13 Old 06-25-2019, 06:57 AM Thread Starter
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S.O.S. Help please my YJ Does not Start

ok this is the story off the problem:
My ignition switch tost and the ignition key does not turn. so I have change the ignition switch. for that time when I try to start it the key turns evrything work as normal exept the starter is shown to be dead. I have put a jumper where the sterter relay is and the starter tern and start the engine. I have change the starter's relay and it continue to don't start. do I miss something on my test or there is any other fuse it may burned? please help

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post #2 of 13 Old 06-25-2019, 06:59 AM
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There is a metal bar that runs along the column. When you turn the key it pushed that bar which engages a switch to tell the start to do its job.
WHen you changed the ignition cylinder did you line it back up with that bar and ensure the tab from the cylinder is engaging it properly
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Agree with Siva ^^


Was it cranking at all before you replaced the ignition switch? How did you conclude that it was the ignition switch which required replacement?



If you can walk us through the troubleshooting up to the ignition switch replacement, that will be really helpful.
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Does your key turn now after replacing the ignition switch? When you say the switch, do you mean this?


If you cannot fix it with a hammer then it has to be an electrical problem.
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Sorry. It did not attach in the previous post. Did you replace this?
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If you cannot fix it with a hammer then it has to be an electrical problem.
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it is engage normal I have try to run the ignition switch with out the ignition key mechanism (manualy with a small metal stick) it works correct at all the positions.
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the ignition switch was burned
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the ignition switch was burned
The new switch was burned?

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I am with Que. Was the new or old switch burned?

Yes or no though. Can you start it now with your metal stick?

If you cannot fix it with a hammer then it has to be an electrical problem.
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Sounds like he's saying he can start it with a screwdriver but not with the key. The cylinder is probably boogered up.

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the old ignition switch was burned. I can start it with a jumper cable at the place of the starter relay from the fuse case that is in the engine bay
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I posted the steps you need to follow on a recent post.

You said that jumping it (30 to 87 the diagram on the side of the relay) started it. Yellow wire comes from the ignition switch to the relay. The neutral safety switch supplies ground. If it turns over jumping 30 to 87 you need to go to 85/86 which controls the relay activation from the yellow ignition start wire. One wire will be grounded all the time if its a manual trans. The other will go hot when the key is in the start position only. I believe 86 is the hot. So put your meter or test light in the 86 pin in the relay socket and see what you get. If you have 12vdc then check the resistance of 85 to battery ground.

If no 12 volts (I might have them backwards so check both) Its time to check 12 volts at the yellow wire under the ignition column and at connector C112 which is the black connector that goes through the middle of the firewall.

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Sounds like he's saying he can start it with a screwdriver but not with the key. The cylinder is probably boogered up.
I really thought so also but if it starts now by turning the key with a screwdriver or similar works or not question got totally bypassed. So, we are still chasing electrical when we are not sure of the answer to what may have turned it into an obvious mechanical issue.

To the OP. Does it start now with your metal stick or screwdriver in place of the ignition key mechanism? You made it sound like it does. If it starts with your metal stick or screwdriver or whatever in place of a key. Quit chasing wires.

If you cannot fix it with a hammer then it has to be an electrical problem.
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