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post #1 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 08:51 AM Thread Starter
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HELP dana 35 locks up when not under power

Not really sure what the issue is but I would like to try to figure it out before I buy a new rear end. For starters what im pretty sure was my pinion bearing was getting kinda loud when I let off the gas but was fine under load. Then yesterday as i was driving and shifted from 2nd to 3rd (4.0, ax15, dana 35 open carrier) the rear end completely locked up and sent me sideways in traffic and I'm trying to figure out why. I can get it going in 1st and reverse but as soon as theres any slack in my driveline it locks up again. Am I correct in thinking the rear end is bad and just need a new one? Need help asap as this is my daily driver. Any help is greatly appreciated

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post #2 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 08:56 AM
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Pull the cover and inspect the gears. My guess is that a piece of either the ring or pinion broke off and is causing the rear to lock up like that. Do not drive it till you inspect the gears.
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post #3 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 08:58 AM
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Pull the cover and take a look. Around here(NM) junkyard ones are $500 versus new internals $350-$500 depending on quality of parts used. They are not hard to rebuild either.

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+1 had it happen to my 74 cj5 its the spider gears ..it will eat your rear , open her up and pull all the little peaces out ..time for a rebuild..
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Check your local 4X4 club.....they practically give them away around here.

probably out breaking stuff.
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post #6 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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That was fast

I have class today but I will open it up tonight and check it out. I refuse to put another dana 35 under there as this is the 2nd one that has broken in some way. Found a rodeo dana 44 or a 2000 ford 8.8 both with disks and 4.10s for 250 locally. any opinions on which is a better swap?
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post #7 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 09:47 AM
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The rodeo axle is almost certainly 6 lugs but might be a good swap if you can make it work, since they are plentiful.

The 8.8 is preferred since it's the same wheel pattern, almost the exact right width and has lots of aftermarket support. BUT, it needs to be the correct version. Ford had used numerous different flavors of 8.8 axles.

Check the sticky above for info.

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1st don't take me the wrong way here but just get another 35 so you can upgrade planned and careful and not under the gun.

2nd unless I missed it you didn't state present gear ratio. You are probably 3.07/3.08 geared. If you grab the 4.11 rear 8.8 you will need to regear front diff. Another point for doing another D35 for now.

3rd you should not have to pay much over $100 for a 3.08:1 D35 as they are everywhere. A 4.11 D35 will be $150- $200ish. A D30 (front) 4.11 will be $150- $250.

4th you should be able to come up with a D35 3.08 easy enough there in Maine. I think I am only a few hours from you; if all else fails I have some *extra* axles...PM me

[size=“3”]Shackles & D-rings are different things.
Cranking IS turning over
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post #9 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 10:15 AM
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Here's an article about swapping the Rodeo 44. Looks like the big sticking point is the 6x5.5 lug pattern. Also, double check the width. Not sure the years but it looks like some are 58" wide and some are 61" wide.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/tr...dana-44-axles/
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post #10 of 11 Old 11-12-2014, 10:23 AM
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I wouldn't put a nickel into a Dana Turdy Five.
There is a reason they are being given away, they are junk.
Do the 8.8 deal, and if the gearing is off, just run the rear driveshaft for now.
I could see spending some money on a HP30 front, but the 35 is always going to be junk unless you throw serious money at it, and then it's only semi junk. Been there dont that, learned the lesson.
Listen to the folks that have broke stuff, and learn from our mistakes. It's cheaper to do it right, as you now know after throwing another Turdy Five under the poor rig.

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post #11 of 11 Old 11-13-2014, 05:37 AM Thread Starter
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Ford 8.8

I've been dreaming about doing this for a while, had all the parts and everything lined up and that axle turned up at a jy 5 minutes from work so it kinda worked out. Thought I put that I had 4.10s in the 1st post, sorry. I already did a 4.0 swap so I'm not really worried about setting up the perches and already had 4.10s I just have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to setting up gears.
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