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post #196 of 1464 Old 01-23-2011, 07:46 PM
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Can someone describe what death wobble feels like?

I get good vibations at 55mph (which is probably closer to 70 with my tires) which feel like a tire is out of balance. I used this as partial justification to upgrade to new 33s. The vibration is still there but only at that speed. It almost seems like I can drive through it too. (Maybe not.)
your not experiencing death wobble. What your describing is a vibration.
Death wobble is the violent shaking of the wheels/steering wheel etc making you feel as if your about to be thrown out of your seat or that your jeep is posessed by a violent earthquake.


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post #197 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 11:07 AM
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Do you need a front track bar??

Just put a 6 inch bds lift on an now my front track bar don't fit do i really need it?
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post #198 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 11:10 AM
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is it a dd?? if so yes! you can buy longer sway bar connectors.
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post #199 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 11:13 AM
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Do a search & you should find all the info you could ever want on track bars...I believe it's called "everything you ever wanted to know about track/swaybar removal". Hope this helps.

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post #200 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 11:13 AM
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is it a dd?? if so yes! you can buy longer sway bar connectors.
A track bar and sway bar are two different things so getting longer sway bat links are not going to help the track bar fit.

OP no you do not need it on a leaf sprung rig in my, and most other YJers opinions. On a TJ it is a different story.

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post #201 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 11:15 AM
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is it a dd?? if so yes! you can buy longer sway bar connectors.
He said track bar. And the answer is no, you most likely will not need it. Getting rid of the front and rear track bars was one of the best things I did to my jeep.
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post #202 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 12:21 PM
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IMO as long as your front end components are in accepable condition (alinement, tie rod ends, steering box etc) you dont need it and wont ever feel any difference on the street as a DD. You will see a great deal of improvement off road - flex and on my YJ it was a a better ride on the road as well, not as stiff.

Best and cheapest single mod, remove both of them.

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post #203 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 01:14 PM
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The front trac bar if parallel to the drag link will minimize bump steer. As your frame moves up and down as you drive the vehicle the distance between the pitman arm and drag link connection on the vehicle will try to change. Without a trac bar the frame will move just straight up and down. The pitman arm will move left and right to make up for the distance change. This will cause the steering wheel to rotate CW and CCW. That is bump steer. You hit a bump and the steering wheel turns. The trac bar will try and keep this distance the same by moving the frame left and right as it bounces up and down.With a suspension lift the trac bar and drag link will only be parallel at one point and as you steer left and right they get out of sync with each other. So either alleviate some bump steer at the expense of jerking the frame left and right or deal with bump steer that can even break a finger when off roading. The only solution is to keep everything parallel. Lifting can cause severe shimmying. Large tires can really exagerate the condition. I had a Dodge truck with a 14 inch lift and 44inch tires and my first test drive shook the truck violently. That began a long expensive lesson about suspensions. The picture is of the backend of the truck. There were no kits for 14 inch lifts for 2004 3/4 Dodge trucks because they changed from Dana to Corporate axles. So I built the entire lift kit except for the springs and spring spacers.
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post #204 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 01:34 PM
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I dont know about having one attached to the jeep and all, but you should definitely keep that front trac bar handy in the back of your Jeep for beating off rabid squirrels, coons, banjo playing rednecks and the occasional mountain goat. It does make a handy weapon.

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post #205 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 01:42 PM
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I dont know about having one attached to the jeep and all, but you should definitely keep that front trac bar handy in the back of your Jeep for beating off rabid squirrels, coons, banjo playing rednecks and the occasional mountain goat. It does make a handy weapon.

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post #206 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 03:20 PM
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I removed my rear 7 months ago when I bought my yj because I replaced the blown 35 with a 44. When I put on my 1.5"shackle lift (on top of the 2"spring lift and 2"body lift from the PO) a month ago the track bar pulled the axle out of line so I took it off.there is noticeable bump steer, but not to bad. Also at high speed (around 60) on sharp turns you can feel the body pull to the outside. This is also my DD which I drive ~200 miles a day. I would recommend reattaching the sway bar though. If you really want. To see for yourself check out YouTube, I'm sure there's some video on there.
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post #207 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 03:45 PM
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No sways, no tracks. Made an emergency swerve at 40mph, felt fine.

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post #208 of 1464 Old 02-07-2011, 04:00 PM
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I'm going to be running 35s And i already have taken off my rear track bar
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post #209 of 1464 Old 03-02-2011, 02:52 PM
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Pitman Arm/Tracbar Question

In the middle of my 4" RC lift, and I think I did my research, but came upon a couple of threads, where it was generally the advice to only install a drop pitman arm when installing a frameside tracbar bracket, in order to keep parts parallel to avoid bumpsteer.

Well...I'm not going to install the tracbar bracket that came with the lift, because I'm ditching the tracbar, period.

Should I still be installing the DPA or not?

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post #210 of 1464 Old 03-02-2011, 03:06 PM
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I was always under the assumption you want the drag link as close to parallel with the tie rod but I could be wrong. I say put the DPA on.

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