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post #1 of 14 Old 12-17-2019, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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I heard a rumor today that in 2022 Jeep will offer a hybrid a plug in hybrid and a full electric on all jeep models. Anybody else heard this?

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post #2 of 14 Old 12-17-2019, 11:04 PM
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Electric options in the full lineup is the rumour, not necessarily all variations of electric in all models. Several article links are located in the following thread: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f176.../#post40819235

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post #3 of 14 Old 12-19-2019, 07:19 PM
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Hmmm, I feel like it's a hoax but there's a probability in the near future. Also, I am not a fan of e-vehicle.
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It's only a matter of time before Jeep offers an electric option.
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post #5 of 14 Old 07-20-2020, 05:31 PM
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It could be this one.

Key point: it's hybrid, NOT full electric. So you always can carry enough fuel. Electric drive can produce huge (and controlled) low speed torque, it's not clear if it's electric through a conventional drive line/axle structure (most likely) but there is great potential for electric motors at the wheels, each controlled independently (like in the Liebherr mining trucks). Applying different torque to each wheel can be useful offroad.

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Hmmm, I feel like it's a hoax but there's a probability in the near future. Also, I am not a fan of e-vehicle.
Me too. I can't imagine a Jeep running on electricity.
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post #7 of 14 Old 07-21-2020, 08:34 AM
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Electric drive off road. Very high startup torque, which can be quickly moderated if wheel begins to slip.

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It could be this one.

Key point: it's hybrid, NOT full electric. So you always can carry enough fuel. Electric drive can produce huge (and controlled) low speed torque, it's not clear if it's electric through a conventional drive line/axle structure (most likely) but there is great potential for electric motors at the wheels, each controlled independently (like in the Liebherr mining trucks). Applying different torque to each wheel can be useful offroad.

https://www.quadratec.com/c/blog/fia...rooms-end-2020
I really don't see them going away from the conventional driveline/axle setup due to the added costs and complexity this would introduce on the existing production line. Gut feeling tells me they'll most likely stick with the current 2.0L offering as the basis for their hybrid, as suggested in the linked article. I believe varying torque at each wheel is already done via selective brake application through the ABS system.

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I really don't see them going away from the conventional driveline/axle setup due to the added costs and complexity this would introduce on the existing production line. Gut feeling tells me they'll most likely stick with the current 2.0L offering as the basis for their hybrid, as suggested in the linked article. I believe varying torque at each wheel is already done via selective brake application through the ABS system.
Basically that is probably right. Cost will be a factor which is why I expected the conventional diveline setup for now. In the long run though, torque control via motors would have a lot more precision. The Lordstown pickup truck is rumored to have a separate motor in each wheel, kind of radical by today's standards. See what happens.

At any rate, pure battery drive is a real potential weakness, batteries just don't have anywhere near the energy density of chemical fuels. Offroad, overlanding, that is a problem.

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The execution of the system is pure FIAT POS. In Jl 2.0. Unlike the fuel tank opposite side that can flex when the skid intrudes in to the poly tank. Lipo will not flex if your skid intrudes, burst a lipo pack it tends to go up in smoke. Its closeness to the fuel is another known issue they had before they even made it to lots.

Its not that it can not be done well. Issue is they just toss it in with not much real thought. Sure on street its fine. Off road in time lets see what happens. I know my Jks tank skid is intruded like 2+ inches all along the bottom, poor mans belly up..............

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Hopefully they'll install a more substantial skid for the hybrid battery pack, but of course one can hope in one hand and...

Like the majority of Wrangler purchasers these days, I doubt many would take their 4xe offroad and fewer still of those will actually drive one on a trail where smashing the battery is likely.

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everything is trending electric, just look at Ford. It won't have the same feel though. Hope the future will also offer combustion engines too, not just electric.
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They announced a plugin Hybrid Jeep on their site. It's up now (my account is too new to post links but it's jeep dot com /wrangler-4xe.html )
0-60 in 6 seconds
375 horsepower
470 pound-feet of instant torque

I just want to turn it to all-electric mode when I'm moseying through the forest with doors and roof off.
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They announced a plugin Hybrid Jeep on their site. It's up now (my account is too new to post links but it's jeep dot com /wrangler-4xe.html )
0-60 in 6 seconds
375 horsepower
470 pound-feet of instant torque

I just want to turn it to all-electric mode when I'm moseying through the forest with doors and roof off.
The important thing here is that it has an engine as well. No need for ridiculously large batteries (Tesla S battery is something like 1200 lbs and costs like 25K to replace as of a couple years ago) and you can always carry extra fuel for overlanding (unlike a pure electric)

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