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post #16 of 37 Old 09-10-2011, 06:14 PM
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What I don't get is that you came on a public forum, a pretty big one at that, and basically announced that you are planning on commiting theft. That, sir (used loosely), is balls.

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post #17 of 37 Old 09-10-2011, 06:25 PM
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Am thinking I want to install Clayton four link but don't want to pay 1500 so might use there kit and copy it and return it
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What I don't get is that you came on a public forum, a pretty big one at that, and basically announced that you are planning on committing theft. That, sir (used loosely), is balls.
Agreed with Vin. I have half a mind to email the link to this tread and highlight your post that states you are planning on committing fraud and theft of their design.

If I dont, I am sure someone will. The only thing you have saving you at the moment is that you have not committed the act yet, that we all know of.

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I thinks what he means is you are committing fraud and seem to have no qualms about stealing a design and abusing a return system.
I belive that what he wants to do is order the system, take measurments or draw out templets, then send back the system unused for the refund and make his own replicating their design as exactly as he can giving him the Clayton system for the price of the metal.

Either way, its wrong and I would not do it.

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post #19 of 37 Old 09-10-2011, 06:35 PM
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The guys at Clayton are cool. They make good stuff. I go up there and ask them questions all the time and they help me out. The product is good! Just buy it from them and save yourself the time. I would think all the time to make a setup, build it, and install it would be more than the cost of just buying it.

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post #20 of 37 Old 09-10-2011, 06:39 PM
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Honestly companies work very hard to design the products to ensure that they perform efficiently offroad, stealing a design is just wrong and shouldn't be done.
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If you wanna build something. Do the home work your self. At least find a fab write up and follow that. Weak...


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Thereare tons of free link drafting designs on line, people on Pirate4x4.com use them all the time, im constintly seeing them in their build threads, its like a c.a.d program, download one and build your own design

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There is another cheap alternative to claytons. Leaf springs. They are harder to steal though... might have to just straight up pay for those.

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There is another cheap alternative to claytons. Leaf springs. They are harder to steal though... might have to just straight up pay for those.

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Am thinking I want to install Clayton four link but don't want to pay 1500 so might use there kit and copy it and return it

Cheater, cheater pumkin eater. If you have half the ability to steal some one elses idea.....you should be smart enough to fabricate it without screwing someone over to do it. IDIOT!!!
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The guys at Clayton are cool. They make good stuff. I go up there and ask them questions all the time and they help me out. The product is good! Just buy it from them and save yourself the time. I would think all the time to make a setup, build it, and install it would be more than the cost of just buying it.
Touché very good point most likely not worth the time
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Thereare tons of free link drafting designs on line, people on Pirate4x4.com use them all the time, im constintly seeing them in their build threads, its like a c.a.d program, download one and build your own design
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http://mysite.verizon.net/triaged/4l...tml/index.html

and reas this
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techart...t_1/index.html

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www.google.com I'll let you decide the search words.

But I can give you a hint 3-link calculator and 4-link calculator. Add pirate4x4 to that and you should get what you're looking for. Don't be an idiot and copy the designs from clayton or some other company. That's what the chinese people are doing design and fab your own, or buy a kit and install.

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. I would think all the time to make a setup, build it, and install it would be more than the cost of just buying it.
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