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post #1 of 19 Old 08-07-2019, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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How many miles are too many?

I'm selling my YJ and if/when that happens I'll be shopping for an XJ. I live in Indiana, so I'm pretty good at weeding out structurally rusty Jeeps for anything other than parts, and light to moderate body rust/rockers are things I can weld myself. In doing a few quick searches around my area I've noticed that most of these XJ's are at or around 200k (I found an automatic that has 308k, and according to the owner it's still the original transmission). I'm guessing many of them spent their lives on the highway or getting groceries, but what do you guys look for shopping for XJs? Should I just get one with a bazillion miles for 1000 bucks and plan on swapping out the drive train? Should I look for one that's had some recent ancillary work (new exhaust, suspension work etc)?

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post #2 of 19 Old 08-07-2019, 04:58 PM
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The only thing you really can't fix is rust. New parts are a bonus, but on the other hand are not expensive either. Needing work is good bargaining chip to get a lower price.

Properly maintained both the AW-4 automatic transmission and the Jeep 4.0L should go well past 300,000 miles. If not, you can still find them in the junkyard. Around here $400 will get you a 4.0L with 150,000 miles and an AW-4 with less than 100,000 miles is $ 200 - 300.

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They are great Jeeps but lifespan depend on maintenance more than age or mileage. Mine is 24 years old and a DD. I have had it for 10 years. I think it has 180,000 miles, but no way of knowing.

It is all Jeep parts , no dodgy fixes are allowed apart from shocks and tyres. It has had in recent years a host of new parts including all suspension wear parts, shocks, tyres, water pump, core plugs, belt, alternator and radiator rebuilt, fan clutch, thermostat, power steering pump, seat facings, service parts, washer pumps etc. It is RELIABLE because it gets serviced and fixed. It drives great, shifts smooth and powerful.

Apart from paint and interior trim, which is hard to find, I always prioritise RUST. Even here, with no winters, I have rusty floor pans after all these years.....
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Around here $400 will get you a 4.0L with 150,000 miles and an AW-4 with less than 100,000 miles is $ 200 - 300.
I really need to move. Around my area, both the engine and trans would be $1000 (each) or more.

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I really need to move. Around my area, both the engine and trans would be $1000 (each) or more.


Send me a rust free body and I will send you a motor and AW-4 trans.
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Send me a rust free body and I will send you a motor and AW-4 trans.

ha, yeah and ill drive them over to you in a rusty xj!

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Basically, what the others have said. It's not limited to XJs. You usually have two segments of the XJs owners, those that beat them and those who cherished them (soccer moms usually). Stepped out of the bank Saturday, and there was probably a '95 or '96. It glowed. Older Guy. Yes, rust free XJ do exists in IN. I just bought an '00 for $800, not running and front clip needed replaced. It have 260K. I don't care about the miles. Some run good others don't at lesser miles. If you want a real challenge, buy an early 80's Mercedes.
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I went the high mileage no/low rust option when we bought an XJ for our son. 97 w/ no rust, 4.0/AX-15 and 218k. Like mentioned above Id rather deal with replacing a motor than dealing with rust. XJ now has 225k and runs great. Weve taken it on several multi-hour camping trips. The clutch is getting a little questionable and it needs a steering box, but so far so good.

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When you get into XJs or older Jeeps in general I become much less worried about mileage and more worried about maintenance and what's been replaced.

I used to be the guy that would take my sawsall to my Jeep. The last 2 XJs I've been that guy who cherishes them keeps them mostly stock with exception of rock sliders, skids, and a locker but still takes them off pavement. I'm just not as willing to bash it down a trail as I was with my previous Jeeps since I want to keep it around as long as possible.

Just know that no matter what these are almost 20 years old if you get a last year model. My current Jeep is 24 years old, it's about to qualify for antique vehicle plates in my state. No matter how solid something is, it will eventually need major repairs. Engine, trans, axles, tcase whatever.

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To some extent the XXX Mileage has changed over the year. In the 70's It was roughly 80K. It went up a bit in the 80's and then the 90's. At a certain point 200K if maintained, still has a ways to go. We also, get set on price. That has changed on XJ's in the past few years. I do see some mint XJs in my area. The only one that came up for sale was a '95 with 70K on it. Looked near mint. Asking $7K. I think it went for $6,500.
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I pretty much agree with most of what you guys have said, and in just searching around for an XJ it's obvious how spoiled for choice I'll be when I finally get rid of my YJ and free up a spot in my garage. Like most of you, I'll forsake the mileage as long as it runs without any god awful sounds, and take it as a bonus if I can find one that's got a modest lift with a decent set of tires, or some recent suspension/differential work done to it.

I'm used to Wrangler shopping where $4,000 will get you something that may or may not make it back to your house. Conversely, 4k in an XJ can get you something that's already built.


@TheBoogieman - Come take a ride to the midwest, and bring a hauler. There's a guy in town selling a 96 Classic with what he calls a rebuilt engine and functional trans along with a set of decent 31/10.5's for $650 bucks. Back end of the unibody rusted completely out.
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There were a couple in the paper a week or so ago. Wanting $4K or so. I think one was lifted. Columbus, IN.
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I needed an XJ for the extra room for my driving job. I ended up paying $3000 for a rust free one with 120,000 miles. I'm a TJ guy and that won't get you a rusted out, barely running, 200,000 mile, 4 banger TJ. I bought a Scion now, for my job to save gas money and my XJ.
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I needed an XJ for the extra room for my driving job. I ended up paying $3000 for a rust free one with 120,000 miles. I'm a TJ guy and that won't get you a rusted out, barely running, 200,000 mile, 4 banger TJ. I bought a Scion now, for my job to save gas money and my XJ.
Ha, didn't go timid on the wheels eh?

I got uber lucky last fall and got my hands on a 97 4.0 with very little frame rust on some 33" duratracs for $1500 because the dude thought the engine was going out. It turns out that his exhaust manifold was loose (and of course cracked) and there was a hole in the exhaust the size of a dime when I took the skid off.

It needed a new exhaust, floors, 2 holes in the tub patched, a new fuel pump, new speakers, and it still leaks oil like a sieve...but the price was right.
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My oil leak on my 99 X J was the Rear Main Seal. Replaced it but leaking again. Periodically I wipe the oil from the under carriage.

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