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Introducing MONSTALINER� UV Permanent DIY Roll On Bed Liner

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Introducing MONSTALINER™ UV Permanent DIY Roll On Bed Liner

Hi All,

We are a new advertiser on jeepforum.com and I just want to introduce myself, our company and a very interesting new product.

My name is Eric and I have 25+ years experience in coatings manufacturing.
Our company Magnet Paints, is focused on industrial maintenance and commercial fleet refinish coatings,
epoxy and urethane concrete floor coatings and automotive restoration paints.

We are also the manufacturers of Chassis Saver™ Rust Preventive Truck & Auto Underbody Coating.
Chassis Saver is a high performance alternate to POR-15 at 45% lower cost.


For the past 5 years, our lab has been developing and fine tuning a roll on bed liner product.
The product has evolved through 3 generations of testing, development and field trials and has just been
commercialized and is available for sale.

I have personally been involved with installations on more than 20 vehicles in the last 4 years in which
my feedback and experience alone was the determining factor that the product was complete and ready for release.

Monstaliner started as a pet project. One of our employees had used a widely popular DIY bed liner on his
personal truck and was not so pleased with the outcome. He came into work one day with a mission and
for almost a year, he kept badgering the chemists in our lab to develop a better product.

One day after getting tired of listening to this guy rant, we sat down and mapped out what a
new generation do-it-yourself bed liner would have to offer to be successful. A first, we just toyed with the
project but we knew that a much better product was possible compared to those already on the market.

So here we are, very proud to present:

MONSTALINER™ High Performance DIY Roll On Bed Liner

I don't want to write a book here so I will post the web site link for all who are curious to check this out on their own time.

As an introduction special and for the rest of this month at least,
we are offering free shipping on anything sold on the web site.

Just use Promo Code "FSBL-1" when ordering either online or by phone.


Everyone, anyone... please feel free to ask any questions. I am always available to help.

Best Regards
magnetman
Monstaliner do-it-yourself roll-on truck bed liner

PS: We are looking for dealers in markets involving Jeep, Truck, 4x4 and Off-Roading.
If anyone with a legit business either online or offline has interest, just get in touch and we can
work with you to make something happen.


Additional links on our main web site
Magnet Paints Manufacturers High Performance Specialty Coatings
Paint Over Rust to Stop Rust Permanently With Chassis Saver Truck & Auto Underbody Coating
 
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#9,446 ·
Sparrows said:
Magnetman,

I was getting ready to order a 1 gallon kit of Predator (that's the correct amount for the exterior of a YJ right?) but I stopped when I noticed that you recommend white primer. My YJ has half the exterior of the tub already Rhino Lined in black. The rest is factory white paint. I did some googling but couldn't find a good answer to whether or not you can prime over Rhino Liner. People who tried had good luck with self etching primer, but I seem to remember reading in one of these threads that self etching primer and Monstaliner don't play well together. Am I remembering that correctly?

What, if anything, do you recommend I do? I finally settled on a color, but I don't want to proceed if I'm going to have less that satisfactory results. I'd honestly rather go with my 2nd choice color instead of ending up with a trashy, half-as$ed looking job.

Any insight/help would be awesome. Thanks in advance!
Cheers! :cheers2:
What's wrong with the rhino liner that makes you wanna go over it? Rhino liner is 10x better. No offense.. Well kinda well mines over here chipping off no one will respond to my emails, I gave up calling cause Eric would never call back. This has happened twice now and it'd be worth the extra money to have gotten rhino liner instead. My tires rubbed my flars over the weekend and it cause it to crack off almost.
 
#9,450 ·
Nearly every vehicle I have owned have been white or black vehicles and I want something BRIGHT. That and the idea of a bright colored paint that doubles as tough trail rash prevention is pretty cool to me. Also, to have the rest of the Jeep Rhinoed would be significantly more money. The current Rhino on it was done by the PO. The inside of the tub is also Rhinoed and that part of it I love. I just hate how the Rhino on it now just kind of...ends suddenly on the rocker. Probably my least favorite part of my YJ.

Honestly, as tired as I am of white, if the whole thing was white I still wouldn't mind. I still really like the white/black accents/some colored accents (recovery shackles, stickers, diff covers, etc) but the half and half look just ain't doing it for me! It reminds me too much of rigs you see driving around that must have been in a collision with front quarters, hoods, or doors that obviously came from a junk yard and are a completely different color than the rest of the vehicle...but I digress...

You've had bad luck with Monstaliner?

Anyways, pics worth a thousand words and all that....




I have a ton of work to do to it...It's just been so 'effing cold and I'm still recovering from a serious injury I suffered last year, so rolling around on the ice/snow/slush hasn't sounded that appealing. I finally have a warm garage cleared out at my sister's house so work can start soon. First things will be repainting the faded bumpers/carriers, installing my lift and getting rid of those god awful 2.5" lift shackles, replacing the flares, and Monstalining the exterior (or something :thumbsup:).

Thanks for the input.
:cheers2:

EDIT: Am I alone in thinking that looks like total crap?
 
#9,447 ·
ZCherokee4x4 said:
What's wrong with the rhino liner that makes you wanna go over it? Rhino liner is 10x better. No offense.. Well kinda well mines over here chipping off no one will respond to my emails, I gave up calling cause Eric would never call back. This has happened twice now and it'd be worth the extra money to have gotten rhino liner instead. My tires rubbed my flars over the weekend and it cause it to crack off almost.
He just wants a color besides black, eric had always been good about getting back to alot o people on this forum. Shoot him a pm and say something on this thread and he uually gets back soon. I cant belive how fast people attack him. Hes a relatively small business, tryin to expand, and remember monstaliner and jeepforum are only a part of his business, not the only business. And while customer service is an important part of any business, would you rather have to wait a couple days and talk to the boss, or have some dumb phone operator take your call and not know the answers to your questions? Have patience and keep trying him. Hes not ignoring or avoidin you, hes just busy. The quality of the product speaks for itself
 
#9,448 ·
BAMFpullin719 said:
He just wants a color besides black, eric had always been good about getting back to alot o people on this forum. Shoot him a pm and say something on this thread and he uually gets back soon. I cant belive how fast people attack him. Hes a relatively small business, tryin to expand, and remember monstaliner and jeepforum are only a part of his business, not the only business. And while customer service is an important part of any business, would you rather have to wait a couple days and talk to the boss, or have some dumb phone operator take your call and not know the answers to your questions? Have patience and keep trying him. Hes not ignoring or avoidin you, hes just busy. The quality of the product speaks for itself
I think it's just when he sees its not perfect then he puts it aside cause a lot of people have loved the fast response times while I waited over a month to get on the phone with him
 
#9,451 ·
Sparrows said:
You've had bad luck with Monstaliner?
Yeah. And you can blame me in my prep work or whatever and the first time it could have very well been my fault but not the second time. And I'm starting to think its just the product, because I didn't prep my rear panels which are rusted out and take the most hits from mud and rocks and the Monstaliner holds up well right there. I don't think I even textured it, I just threw the Bedliner on right there and that's the only place it's stayed on lol, should I just not prep anymore just dump the whole gallon over my jeep?
Also it's not flexible for me, instead it's flaky. It'll crack right off.
 
#9,452 ·
I picking my way backward through the posts, cant find anything on this. Has anyone tried stenciling one color of monstaliner on top of another? Not as a two tone paint job, but as a design, picture, logo, text or whatever. I have a pretty cool idea in mind if this will work out.
 
#9,457 ·
Even though I no longer have my jeep I still have a project and this place continues to be full of knowledgable folks.

Putting together my camp ground golf cart and am thinking of painting it with monstaliner. Anybody else do this? How much do you think it would take to paint a golf cart? Looking at smurfadelic blue for the color..

Thanks,
Jay
 
#9,458 ·
jay_in_cgohio said:
Even though I no longer have my jeep I still have a project and this place continues to be full of knowledgable folks.

Putting together my camp ground golf cart and am thinking of painting it with monstaliner. Anybody else do this? How much do you think it would take to paint a golf cart? Looking at smurfadelic blue for the color..

Thanks,
Jay
I'm assuming a couple quarts. But try a different Bedliner.
 
#9,466 ·
ashland82391 said:
Hmm, I hope the monster liner guy chimes in and explains because I'm having second thoughts about doing my Jeep with it.
He was active in the thread until I said something lol.. I really thought I was the only one who was having problems until I found other threads about it. So I know that I'm not the only one. Also I noticed it cracks and does scratch when I think I remember them saying it was flexible and scuff resistant. I got some sweet scratches lol and that's not the prep work. That's the product hands down.
 
#9,471 ·
He was active in the thread until I said something lol.. I really thought I was the only one who was having problems until I found other threads about it. So I know that I'm not the only one.
While you and some others may have had an issue, that can't hardly be the norm given the total amount of users. If what you're implying was true there would certainly be more negative reviews than there currently are.

As for Eric's involvement in this thread, it's laughable that you honestly think it's because of you. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably just a tad busy with cleanup/getting things back on track from the hurricane and getting ready to move the company to their new location. But you never know, maybe it is all because of you... :rolleyes:

If you're actually having legitimate problems with the product, how about giving some actual details like what you did to prep, materials used, how it was applied, what the weather was when you applied, etc. Pictures would be good as well...

Again, there are plenty of us who have had great results with Monstaliner; if you're having issues, I'd be willing to bet it's more likely to be user error than anything else. At least until we start seeing more claims of this, there really isn't much reason to suspect otherwise.
 
#9,468 ·
I'm sure there is some kind of warranty but I would imagine that it would be hard to argue. A lot of it comes down to prep work and I understand that most of us pay attention to going that extra mile. I too have experienced lifting when I did my tub. It's only a small area but its very upsetting after spending the money for it to lift. I just figured I would fix it when I recoat it. I have an LJ so the two coats are thinner then I would like but holding up well. I know after rolling it and dealing with the roller coming apart I would definitely spray it the next time!
 
#9,469 ·
ospreyfe55 said:
I'm sure there is some kind of warranty but I would imagine that it would be hard to argue. A lot of it comes down to prep work and I understand that most of us pay attention to going that extra mile. I too have experienced lifting when I did my tub. It's only a small area but its very upsetting after spending the money for it to lift. I just figured I would fix it when I recoat it. I have an LJ so the two coats are thinner then I would like but holding up well. I know after rolling it and dealing with the roller coming apart I would definitely spray it the next time!
Yeah that would be there only argument is prep work...
 
#9,470 ·
I hope magnetman chimes in soon too, its sad to see cherokee point fingers and blame without anyone to defend it.

I'll start by saying ive done several jobs using monstaliner, a few of my own and a few for others, ive even been paid to do one job, but i havnt had ANY issues with monsta. Both myself and the people whos vehicles i have done are rather impresse with it, and while i'm no professional, i did a ton of research and reading on monsta before i decided to do my whole jeep, interior black, and exterior urine trouble. I dont know why zcherokee4x4 has had so many issues, could be a bad batch which i doubt, magnetman had been mixxing this stuff for a lon time and he puts alot backbone behind his product and the QA part of it.

I know your not happy he hasnt replied to you. Be it that hes busy or hes dodging you, i cant say, but hundreds of ppl have used the liner with zero issues, and the few that have had issues either contact him and get it fixed or raise a big stink like you for a bit on this forum and then get there problem fixed for free on magnets dime and look like toolbags later.

As far as a warranty goes, the only warranty is a 5 year no fade for the liner. The product is uv protectant so its no spose to fade.

As far as scratches... C'mon people. Its a DIY bedliner that costs $120, not a bulletproof shield. Its not rhino and its not linex, and it doesnt come with the $500-800 price tag either. if thats what you want, then dont buy this stuff. Monsta was made as a competitor to herculiner, another $100 diy liner that has a rough rubber texture, fades in sunlight, and is hard to wash clean. My point is, monsta was meant for inside truck beds, and jeep tubs, it was never intended as an exterior paint, thats something we came up with. It holds up great driving through thick brush and taking beatings from gravel roads. But bounce it off a rock ledge or tree and any paint or liner is gunna chip, crack or peel. I caught my door in the car lift and it wrinkled my door and caused a spot around the door handle to crack and peel. Since then, 2 mos ago, i havnt had any more of the liner peel, and next summer i'll buy another quart and re-apply the liner.

Prep prep prep, most important part to any paint job. I dont get why yours went ba cherokee, but it you used mek to wipe down all surfaces and scuffed or sanded the area the liner should stick pretty well. Maybe grease or dust settled on yours before you applied liner, maybe your neighbor was grilling chicken and the smoke carried over and greased the surface, i dont know, but get another gallon and drive your jeep to ny and i will do all the work and apply it myself, and that **** will stick
 
#9,480 ·
I hope magnetman chimes in soon too, its sad to see cherokee point fingers and blame without anyone to defend it.

I'll start by saying ive done several jobs using monstaliner, a few of my own and a few for others, ive even been paid to do one job, but i havnt had ANY issues with monsta. Both myself and the people whos vehicles i have done are rather impresse with it, and while i'm no professional, i did a ton of research and reading on monsta before i decided to do my whole jeep, interior black, and exterior urine trouble. I dont know why zcherokee4x4 has had so many issues, could be a bad batch which i doubt, magnetman had been mixxing this stuff for a lon time and he puts alot backbone behind his product and the QA part of it.

I know your not happy he hasnt replied to you. Be it that hes busy or hes dodging you, i cant say, but hundreds of ppl have used the liner with zero issues, and the few that have had issues either contact him and get it fixed or raise a big stink like you for a bit on this forum and then get there problem fixed for free on magnets dime and look like toolbags later.

As far as a warranty goes, the only warranty is a 5 year no fade for the liner. The product is uv protectant so its no spose to fade.

As far as scratches... C'mon people. Its a DIY bedliner that costs $120, not a bulletproof shield. Its not rhino and its not linex, and it doesnt come with the $500-800 price tag either. if thats what you want, then dont buy this stuff. Monsta was made as a competitor to herculiner, another $100 diy liner that has a rough rubber texture, fades in sunlight, and is hard to wash clean. My point is, monsta was meant for inside truck beds, and jeep tubs, it was never intended as an exterior paint, thats something we came up with. It holds up great driving through thick brush and taking beatings from gravel roads. But bounce it off a rock ledge or tree and any paint or liner is gunna chip, crack or peel. I caught my door in the car lift and it wrinkled my door and caused a spot around the door handle to crack and peel. Since then, 2 mos ago, i havnt had any more of the liner peel, and next summer i'll buy another quart and re-apply the liner.

Prep prep prep, most important part to any paint job. I dont get why yours went ba cherokee, but it you used mek to wipe down all surfaces and scuffed or sanded the area the liner should stick pretty well. Maybe grease or dust settled on yours before you applied liner, maybe your neighbor was grilling chicken and the smoke carried over and greased the surface, i dont know, but get another gallon and drive your jeep to ny and i will do all the work and apply it myself, and that **** will stick
Thank you got chiming in. You brought my confidence in the product back up and I will use this product and I will remember prep prep prep. Now we just have to wait for tax returns! :)
 
#9,472 ·
BAMFpullin719 said:
I hope magnetman chimes in soon too, its sad to see cherokee point fingers and blame without anyone to defend it.

I'll start by saying ive done several jobs using monstaliner, a few of my own and a few for others, ive even been paid to do one job, but i havnt had ANY issues with monsta. Both myself and the people whos vehicles i have done are rather impresse with it, and while i'm no professional, i did a ton of research and reading on monsta before i decided to do my whole jeep, interior black, and exterior urine trouble. I dont know why zcherokee4x4 has had so many issues, could be a bad batch which i doubt, magnetman had been mixxing this stuff for a lon time and he puts alot backbone behind his product and the QA part of it.

I know your not happy he hasnt replied to you. Be it that hes busy or hes dodging you, i cant say, but hundreds of ppl have used the liner with zero issues, and the few that have had issues either contact him and get it fixed or raise a big stink like you for a bit on this forum and then get there problem fixed for free on magnets dime and look like toolbags later.

As far as a warranty goes, the only warranty is a 5 year no fade for the liner. The product is uv protectant so its no spose to fade.

As far as scratches... C'mon people. Its a DIY bedliner that costs $120, not a bulletproof shield. Its not rhino and its not linex, and it doesnt come with the $500-800 price tag either. if thats what you want, then dont buy this stuff. Monsta was made as a competitor to herculiner, another $100 diy liner that has a rough rubber texture, fades in sunlight, and is hard to wash clean. My point is, monsta was meant for inside truck beds, and jeep tubs, it was never intended as an exterior paint, thats something we came up with. It holds up great driving through thick brush and taking beatings from gravel roads. But bounce it off a rock ledge or tree and any paint or liner is gunna chip, crack or peel. I caught my door in the car lift and it wrinkled my door and caused a spot around the door handle to crack and peel. Since then, 2 mos ago, i havnt had any more of the liner peel, and next summer i'll buy another quart and re-apply the liner.

Prep prep prep, most important part to any paint job. I dont get why yours went ba cherokee, but it you used mek to wipe down all surfaces and scuffed or sanded the area the liner should stick pretty well. Maybe grease or dust settled on yours before you applied liner, maybe your neighbor was grilling chicken and the smoke carried over and greased the surface, i dont know, but get another gallon and drive your jeep to ny and i will do all the work and apply it myself, and that **** will stick
If there are so many happy customers then they can defend it. I'm not trashing it at all I'm just letting you all know my experience. I've prepped blah blah blah used Mek it was clean as a whistle I could have eaten off of it honestly. And as I stated before there was one part I didn't even prep. I didn't even plan to bedline it. I just decided to cover it for now. It was my rear rusted quarter panels. Dirty and rusty. Bedlined right over it. It takes mud rocks dirt everything. Still on perfect. So don't say it was my prep work. Maybe the first time around but not the second time around. And the customer service is horrible. For me.
 
#9,473 ·
geiman said:
While you and some others may have had an issue, that can't hardly be the norm given the total amount of users. If what you're implying was true there would certainly be more negative reviews than there currently are.

As for Eric's involvement in this thread, it's laughable that you honestly think it's because of you. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably just a tad busy with cleanup/getting things back on track from the hurricane and getting ready to move the company to their new location. But you never know, maybe it is all because of you... :rolleyes:

If you're actually having legitimate problems with the product, how about giving some actual details like what you did to prep, materials used, how it was applied, what the weather was when you applied, etc. Pictures would be good as well...

Again, there are plenty of us who have had great results with Monstaliner; if you're having issues, I'd be willing to bet it's more likely to be user error than anything else. At least until we start seeing more claims of this, there really isn't much reason to suspect otherwise.
Yes I'm stupid as a door knob and definitely did everything wrong. Here's how I did it. Both times. First time around I called asking for measurements and what it could be DIRECTLY applied too. I made sure to ask I fit could be applied to my plastic flares. The guy was like " yes it can be applied to almost anything" come to find out, it doesn't . I needed an adhesion promoter which would have been fantastic to know. So I get why it be coming off the flares. But that's their fault not mine. Anyways then I removed the side trim of my jeep and sanded it down and got it scruff end up real nice.cleaned it good ( no I did not use MEK) but I haven't used MEK on a lot of stuff and it turned out just fine. Rolled on in a closed garage in relatively warm weather due to the fact it was summer. Did second coat blah blah blah. Took tape off, sprayed mist when they told me too. Let sit for at least 4 days before I even drove it. 2 weeks before I wheeled it. Started coming off not too long after. Every time is wash it, more and more would seem to be gone. So finally I emailed, called etc. took a month to get ahold of Eric. Bought more. It came in and he said scruff down the existing monstaliner until its not shiny anymore. I did. Then I did use MEK. A lot and applied the first coats. Then second and took ape off and sprayed mist. It started coming off not even a month later. First time.. Maybe user error. Second time wasn't. I talked to Eric a lot going through the steps before I did it the second time.
 
#9,479 ·
BAMF- I'm glad you weighed in! Your TJ in Urine Trouble looks freaking killer!

[sic]I removed the side trim of my jeep and sanded it down and got it scruff end up real nice.cleaned it good ( no I did not use MEK) but I haven't used MEK on a lot of stuff and it turned out just fine. Rolled on in a closed garage in relatively warm weather due to the fact it was summer. Did second coat blah blah blah. [sic]
emphasis mine. From all the instructions, videos, and comments from Eric, I've gathered that MEK pretty much is mandatory for perfect adhesion. Since I haven't actually used the product myself yet, I cannot comment from experience, but I can say that you did in fact, deviate from the instructions given, and that could be why you have a problem.

So far my personal experience with Eric has been excellent. He has answered all my questions fully, and I even spoke with him on the phone last week. He decided to help me out by sending me a small amount of primer (on the house) so we could conduct an adhesion test on my Rhino Liner to be sure that the primer and the Monsta will properly adhere without issues. He seems to go the extra mile, and fully stands behind his product which is rare in this day in age.

Just my .02
:cheers2:
 
#9,476 ·
geiman said:
I'd love to believe everything you're trying to say, but given that you can't hardly express your own thoughts it's hard to really understand what you did.
I'd love to know where I went wrong (if I did go wrong) because I'd love for it to not happen anymore ya know? I'd love to have Bedliner that stays on! Lol the only thing that is good about it (to me) is that it really does clean well. Ad if I could upload pictures I would and let you see what you think and see if you can give me input on it! Maybe see what went wrong but until then I'm at a loss because I don't see what went wrong and I've done it twice now and it keeps falling off. Frustrating, that's all.
 
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