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Unread 07-25-2008, 01:38 PM   #1
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XJ guy looking at the Patriot

I have had my XJ for nine years and have modded it into a decent off road
4x4. The thing is I want it to last for a long time and the current price of gas has me looking for something else as a daily driver. Today I drove a Patriot
2.4L 4x4 Sport and I was very suprised. I was afraid it was going to feel too small and that the ride and comfort would leave a lot to be desired. Actually it turned out just the oppsite. The ride was nice and the interior felt very roomy and comfortable. I can see myself driving this as a DD. My big problem is that I also like the awd Subaru Legacy 2.5i and the Chevy Cobalt SS turbo. Since I plan on keeping the XJ I can not decide if I want a car or another vehicle so close (design wise) to the XJ.

Since this is a JEEP site I thought you folks could give me some reasons that I may not have thought of for buying the Patriot.

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Unread 07-25-2008, 01:43 PM   #2
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If I were going to hang on to the XJ then my DD would be something very good on gas like a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. That is just MHO.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 01:50 PM   #3
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we have both an XJ (mine) and the patriot (wifes).. see sig for details. we are both in the medical field and live in the snow belt.. and we get no snow days off so we needed 4wd and decent clearance on both our vehicles.

as youve already found out, it actually feels bigger inside than the XJ.

very nice ride, goes and handles in snow better than my XJ (and I have the 242 selectrac), great MPG (average 28, gets over 30 straight highway).

passengers in the rear like the reclining seats, the adjustable height front seat is nice (the wife and I like different heights of course), the fold down front passenger seat has come in more handy than either of us would of though and weve used the 110 outlet quite a few times (not a big deal as you can get 12v powered 110 watt ones pretty cheap). just creature comforts, those but nice anyway.

lifetime power train warranty is a big one. autostick is fun (mine doesnt have it, just a "L" position, but all the 08s and up have em).

we are both jeep fans so it was a no brainer. we looked at the compass but its windshield slopes down inside and neither of us liked that.

did you test one with 17" wheels? it feels more stable than the 16s.

lift kits are starting to come out for patriots (nothing as high as XJs obviously). Gramps has one on his compass, so if you want gas mileage plus a bit more off road capabilities, you can go that route also (not to mention the trail rated patriot with more clearance, skids and such).
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Unread 07-25-2008, 05:49 PM   #4
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I will have to look at the brochure a little closer, I didn't realize the rear seats recline. Is that on all the Patriots or do you have to step up to a Limited?

As good as Hondas and Toyotas may be I can not own one, although the Civic SI is pretty nice.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 07:04 PM   #5
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All the backseats 'recline' like up to 45 degrees even the Caliber
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Unread 07-25-2008, 08:31 PM   #6
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very nice ride, goes and handles in snow better than my XJ (and I have the 242 selectrac), great MPG (average 28, gets over 30 straight highway).

When you say you average 28 what kind of percentage of city to highway driving is that?

I did find the part in the brochure about the rear seats reclining. Does any other manufacturer offer that convience in the rear seats?

I would want the 5-speed tranny, FD 1 package and the two local dealers I went to this week only had autos. I would really like to drive the stick.
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Unread 07-25-2008, 11:05 PM   #7
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When I was shopping for a small SUV I checked out the Honda CRV and the Toyota RAV4. I think they've got the Patriot beat on quality - and just feel more solid and well-built. They are more expensive than the Patriot and you can really see that in the interiors with the quality of the materials used.

I ended up buying two Patriots - one for myself and one for my mother. Frankly, it came down to price and what you get for it. For the price of a base CRV or RAV4 I was able to buy loaded Patriots.

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Unread 07-26-2008, 09:23 AM   #8
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When you say you average 28 what kind of percentage of city to highway driving is that?

I would want the 5-speed tranny, FD 1 package and the two local dealers I went to this week only had autos. I would really like to drive the stick.
the 28 figure is for almost all back roads and hardly any highways at all. I live in the country so its mostly winding roads and lots of hills. speeds are around 40-50, very few traffic lights. also thats with the AC on almost all the time.

5 speed should do better, I think it gets a mile or two better.
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Unread 07-26-2008, 10:10 AM   #9
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although the Civic SI is pretty nice.
yeah but it only takes 91 octane
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Unread 07-26-2008, 11:50 AM   #10
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The octane is not not big a deal, the same time I drove the Patriot I drove the Caliber SRT plus I also like the Colbalt SS both of which premium is recomended/required. Thats my problem, I have one Jeep, do I want another one or do I want a car that is a little more sporting.
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Unread 07-26-2008, 01:20 PM   #11
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If I were going to hang on to the XJ then my DD would be something very good on gas like a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. That is just MHO.
....and to add to that, i have my Compass 4X4 and i'm keeping my Toyota Corolla as a DD.

while my Compass DOES get 20-24 mpgs combined, it's hard to beat 34-36 mpgs to and from work........
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Unread 07-26-2008, 10:20 PM   #12
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Ah, this is a hard call man. I have a 94 XJ and it will probably be towed to the junkyard after the State Troopers finally say to me "Son, it's time to let her go. We'll call the tow truck for you if you can't handle it yourself."

With that said, the Patriot is fun, relatively cheap, and gets good gas mileage for a 4x4. Since you plan to keep the XJ and live in OH (I attended grad school at Kent State), you could get a 4x2 version with a 5-speed. You may have to do a lot of looking for one or order it via a dealership but you would be maximizing your MPG's while not spending unnecessary $$ on a 4x4 system you don't necessarily need. When we were looking for our Patriot I considered getting one from NE Ohio since the in-laws live in that are and they have a lot of dealerships. It was also the only place close to relatives that had 5-speeds available on dealer lots.
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Unread 07-30-2008, 07:57 PM   #13
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I purchased the 4x2 sport this past weekend. It is so nice to drive something with an automatic tranny and a stereo that you can hear. Plus i just filled it up and it only cost 41 dollars. I got 26.3 mpg, thats hwy and city combined, with the ac on. Whole lot more room than my tj and mustang. The best 15 grand i have spent so far.jt
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Unread 07-30-2008, 09:26 PM   #14
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My husband and I love ours-both of us bought 5spd sport Patriots-

We took ours on vacation-got 33mpg on the highway with mine, driving 60-65 on average with 4 bikes on the back (no a/c-but with windows and moon roof open). SO PSYCHED!! You cannot beat this truck in the snow. It just keeps going like a little tank. I like the look of the 17's, but have the 16's and they're fine.

I honestly think Jeep should advertise the Patriot and the Compass more...especially for the fuel economy...
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