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Unread 12-30-2009, 06:42 AM   #1
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Winter Tires

i just got my Patriot out of the shop to replace the front bumper cover..
the Geolander HT s just would nt hold on the snow and ice and i ended up
tapping the rear end of a flatbed lumber truck

hopefully this weekend will be better..as we re headed back up to the
mountains..this time with siped Geolander s..

just wondering what any of you would recommend that would be a good
snow tire that i could drive on year round..


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Unread 12-30-2009, 07:34 AM   #2
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And your tire size is 16 or 17 ???
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Unread 12-30-2009, 01:04 PM   #3
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16 s , bob..currently i have 215/70 s on the wheels..and though
the Geolanders say they re All Weather..they suck in the snow
and ice..

hopefully having them siped will help a bit this weekend..if not i ll be
shopping a dedicated winter tire next yr..
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Unread 12-30-2009, 03:50 PM   #4
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The popular sizes are listed here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/o...34/index6.html

In the 215/70-16 sizes

Dedicated winter:
Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1
Pirelli Scorpion Snow and Ice

On/Off Road All terrain:
BFG All Terrain T/A KO
Fuzion XTi
Pirelli Scorpion ATR
Yoko Geo A/T-S
General Grabber AT 2

I will be going to my 16" wheels before next winter hits too. I don't want to do a dedicated tire because of storage constraints so I'm looking at the On/Off Road tires in that size, too. If I decided to stay with a 29" I could easily go with the 235/70-16 Firestone Destination AT. We put those on my wife's '03 Grand Cherokee, before she got the '06, and they were great!
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Unread 12-30-2009, 04:02 PM   #5
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My buddy has a subaru wrx, and he has to work quite hard to lose traction. That being said, they will likely give you more control around corners, and make starts easier. While they may help you stop a bit better, they may give you too much confidence in their ability to do so. The best thing you can do is not go too fast for conditions, and stop several car lengths before you have to. This way you don't end up like the guy who rear-ended my cherokee a couple weeks ago, who has a hit with an insurance claim, and a ticket. My wife had to go to the ER because she hit her head so hard on the seat back. I have been going to the chiropractor. We were stopped at a light, and didn't even see it coming.

Please don't take this the wrong way, as I'm trying to help, but re-thinking your driving habits will be the most effective thing you can do at this point, as even the best tires in the world can't make up for bad habits like tailgating or driving too fast/stopping too late in bad weather. People can really get hurt.
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AND... nothing short of studded tires or chains help that much on ice, although some are better than others. Please read the reviews, Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels is a good place to compare and so is 1010TIRES.COM® — Tires and Wheels Absolute Authority.

My slide off the other week was on about a 2" layer of ice at maybe 2mph sideways right into a ditch. I was just trying to get going again after stopping to help someone stick in a snow drift.
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Unread 12-30-2009, 06:46 PM   #7
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I put blizzak's on last month right before the snow hit and they make the MK the best vehicle I have ever driven in the snow. This is my first winter with the MK so I don't know how other brands would stack up to the blizzak but I can't imagine them being any better. I've got several thousand miles on them already this year in some pretty nasty conditions and not once have I had any issues with stopping, starting, or control.
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my question is, how noisy are the blizzaks? I almost went to the tire shop to get some and that question popped in my mind. Im still running the factory tires and the snow is started to get worse here
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Unread 12-31-2009, 12:38 PM   #9
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My OEM Goodyear Wrangler SRA tires were dangerous on ice. I find the Michelin X-Ice xi2 to be pretty good. I feel more secure with dedicated winter tires but this is Canada.
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Unread 12-31-2009, 01:46 PM   #10
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the daughter is moving up into Modoc county where it snows pretty
regularly..i got a set of the Blizzaks based on the Tirerack reviews..

now that i ve gotten the Geolander HT s siped..maybe they ll hold better in the snow..if not im now eying the BFG ATs or Geolander ATs..whatever one i can get the best deal on..
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A little side note for those with 18". There is a better variety out there now and they do make several "winter" tires in a 225/60-18. Maybe I'll run some dedicated tires after all. Still no decent AT type tires but that's what the 16's are for.

I think the selection on tires has improved considerably since I first started looking a few years ago.
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Unread 12-31-2009, 05:40 PM   #12
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my question is, how noisy are the blizzaks? I almost went to the tire shop to get some and that question popped in my mind. Im still running the factory tires and the snow is started to get worse here
The bizzaks are definitely louder than the stock wrangler SR-A's my MK came with, but much safer (The SR-A's are an absolute joke in the snow). They hum pretty good on the highway. They remind me of the BF Goodrich All-Terrain TA's I used to have on my truck. The Michelins are supposed to be quieter but they were also $100.00 more when I was looking.
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The bizzaks are definitely louder than the stock wrangler SR-A's my MK came with, but much safer (The SR-A's are an absolute joke in the snow). They hum pretty good on the highway. They remind me of the BF Goodrich All-Terrain TA's I used to have on my truck. The Michelins are supposed to be quieter but they were also $100.00 more when I was looking.
yea, these tires are pretty pathetic in the snow, and sometimes even in the rain, im definitely switching to something more knobby
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Unread 01-01-2010, 01:17 AM   #14
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I know you said you wanted year-round tires... But no good snow tire sould be driven in the summer.

HERE IS THE BEST TRUCK SNOW TIRES YOU CAN GET...

Cooper Discoverer M+S.

You can get them in 215-70-16's. I've used several sets of them over the years. They are fantastic in snow, ice, slush, rain.

They have the very soft compound rubber, a gazillion stripes, excellent tread pattern, and the soft rubber compound goes all the way to the cords... The tires lose little performance as they wear, unlike, say Blizzaks, which only have a little bit of the tire surface with good compound and then it goes to the harder.

And, they are good truck tires, too. Very strong, durable, tough.
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Unread 01-01-2010, 04:49 PM   #15
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those Cooper s look fantastic..the siping looks alot like the Blizzaks cept
alot meatier tread..

tomorrow i ll be headed up to the snow with the newly siped Yoko s..if they
don t work out i ll atleast have several options..
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