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Unread 05-22-2013, 08:30 AM   #16
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So then good year duratracks

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Unread 05-22-2013, 12:56 PM   #17
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I suggest the dws's then I have them on my dd, and they are quiet, and have really good traction and have worn well. you have 18" rims right? from your first post, I remember reading that.
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Unread 05-22-2013, 01:01 PM   #18
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No, he has the 215/60R17's.

Hankooks or Michelins will be fine.
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Unread 09-14-2013, 04:22 PM   #19
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Hey guys! I'm new around here -- bought a 2014 Compass Latitude 4x4 at the end of April, and after a road trip around the U.S. and several camping trips in the Catskill Mountains... I can say that I'm very satisfied with my purchase. Already have almost 15k in just over 4 months! This little "baby Jeep" handled everything from the Badlands of South Dakota to the Rocky and Smokey Mountains. I am actually surprised by how well.

But I say "satisfied" because I need just a little more lift and slightly more confidence in light off-road and light snow capabilities (yes, I know -- it's difficult to balance those two). The stock P215/60R-17 size is nice because it still feels like a car while driving (which I personally appreciate), but I need just a little more a "truck" feel. Just a little.

I don't have FDII, and my car isn't lifted. I don't want to lift it for slightly better tire capability. So based on everything I've read here and elsewhere, my two options are P215/65R-17 and 225/65R-17. (Thank you NHPatriot for a VERY informative post earlier in this thread.) I want to go with the larger non-stock 225/65R-17, but I have three fears:

1. Since the computer can't be flashed with an EXACT matching tire size (just close enough, using P215/65R-17), that maybe some computer-based safety features or other things may not work perfectly because everything is based on an inaccurate tire size in the computer.

2. There will be rubbing, even in the only-slightly-larger 225/65R-17. I'd prefer zero rubbing issues if possible.

3. The dealership will blame any potential future issues with suspension or the tranny on my using a non-stock tire size.

Any insight or thoughts?
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Unread 09-14-2013, 05:45 PM   #20
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The only electronic things affected would be speed accuracy and if equipped, the mpg readout.

the 225/65-17 should have no rubbing at all. I say should because not all tires are made the same. I know a lot of guys run the Yokohama geolander ats tires in this size with no issue. I honestly think it should be the stock size, especially on the fdii package.

dealer should have no issue with a slightly larger than stock size. In Arizona at least, the jeep dealers are very friendly to mods, and unless the mod is obviously a problem, they don't give you any issues. How many wranglers are left stock?
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Unread 09-15-2013, 11:37 AM   #21
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The only electronic things affected would be speed accuracy and if equipped, the mpg readout.

the 225/65-17 should have no rubbing at all. I say should because not all tires are made the same. I know a lot of guys run the Yokohama geolander ats tires in this size with no issue. I honestly think it should be the stock size, especially on the fdii package.

dealer should have no issue with a slightly larger than stock size. In Arizona at least, the jeep dealers are very friendly to mods, and unless the mod is obviously a problem, they don't give you any issues. How many wranglers are left stock?
I was thinking of RPMs, and how the 6-speed tranny decides to shift. I guess the difference between the tire sizes isn't enough to have a notable effect...

I'm considering the Firestone Destination LE 2 and General Grabber HTS. They seem to be two great daily driver tires that should perform well on some light off-road situations as well as snow. I wanted to consider the Yokohama Geolander AT/S, but being an all-terrain I'm concerned about tread life and snow/ice performance. I'm thinking highway all-season makes the most sense, just based on what I've been reading.
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Unread 09-15-2013, 11:46 AM   #22
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Also... what's the best way to go about the spare tire situation? My car has the compact spare for the original tire size. Would have to get the new bigger size, but where do you get spare tires like that?
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Unread 09-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #23
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As soon as I get our patriot cooper AT3s will be wrapped around a pro comp wheel. coopers are one of the longest lasting tires on the go, I used them religiously.
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Now im running 34x9.5 swampers on my xj and DD it for a few weeks.
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34x10.5x15 interco super swamper TSL
they hum like crazy
and arent the greatest on road but they perform so amazing offroad i say screw it best tire ever!
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Love my Falken Rocky Mountain Tires. Been a great tire, and have taken me places that still surprise me I was able to go with my patriot.

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Unread 09-21-2013, 08:22 AM   #27
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34x10.5x15 interco super swamper TSL
they hum like crazy
and arent the greatest on road but they perform so amazing offroad i say screw it best tire ever!
You just cant pansy out, you have to stay in it and keep them cleaning and they will pull you through.
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Unread 02-21-2014, 06:47 AM   #28
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Hi guys,

I own a 2010 FWD Jeep Compass. I was thinking of putting in the firestone le2 tires this weekend. A few questions below:

My Jeep is FWD can I still put the LE2 tires? Or is it not worth it since I don't have either AWD or 4WD? I got stuck a few times in this horrible snow storm and was hoping to put better tires that would be good for snow but also quiet to use all year round.

Tire shop told me if I put these tires on, Jeep needs to recalibrate the car. I assume this needs to be done to get accurate speedo. Is this something I need to do before putting the tires in?

Last question, the tire shop is charging me $144 a tire that includes installation. Do you guys think that's a good deal?

Very much appreciated for any help given.

Thanks!
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Unread 02-21-2014, 12:27 PM   #29
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can't say anything about the deal. prices vary so much on a lot of stuff.

You can never go wrong with upgrading tires, especially from stock. regardless of drive configuration. Your rear tires still brake, and your front tires still drive and turn. So going to a better tire will make life easier for you.

The dealer can only change tire size to the largest available stock size, so 215/65-17, if you already have that size, that's all they'll do. If you are going up to a 225/65-17 tire, then you're only a few % bigger, like 2-4%, so if you drive 100mph per your speedo you're actually going 104ish, or at 50, 52ish. Its not a big enough difference to matter. that really only Makes a difference for guys who have 28" tires and upgrade to a 35" tire. that's a MUCH bigger difference.
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Unread 03-14-2014, 06:18 AM   #30
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Unfortunately, the stock tire sizes, be they the 16's or 17's( if you have a Compass 18's too ), do not have a lot of decent options out there. There are a few though. Also, while you can adjust the speedo for non stock tire sizes on many Chrysler vehicles you can not do so on Patriot & Compass models. All you can do is have the dealer do a flash to another stock size. That makes it impossible to have an accurate speedo if you upsize tires to get a good one. Tire options for the Patriot and Compass, if you want a quality tire, are limited at best. So with that said here are some options for you that are available in your stock tire size and that are good tires overall as well as in the snow... P215/60R-17: Hankook Optimo H727 Michelin Defender Continental ProContact w/ EcoPlus Cooper CS4 Touring Yokohama Geolander AT/S( NOTE - this is an All Terrain and not really what you are after but figured I would list it as it is a good tire and is offered in your stock size - you will take a hit in MPG with these and they won't last as long as an All Season though ) You could also go up to the larger stock 17" size( would require speedo flash through dealer to keep speedo accurate )which would give you a little more sidewall height and thus a better ride. These tires are offered in this size and are good tires overall as well as in the snow... P215/65R-17: Hankook Optimo H727 Michelin Defender Cooper CS4 Touring Continental ProContact w/ EcoPlus Firestone Precision Touring If you upsize 1 size past the largest stock 17 you get into a whole bunch of quality tire options. You will also experience a much improved ride as these tires will have more sidewall height and thus absorb more of the bumps you go over. Your speedo will be innacurate though. However, if you have the dealer flash your speedo to the largest stock 17" size it is only off a little bit. I did this on my 2011 Patriot. I really didn't want my speedo to be off but I just couldn't find a tire I really wanted so I upsized one and had the dealer flash my speedo to the 215/65R17 size and my speedo is only off a small amount. Less than 1 MPH up to around 45 and only off 2 MPH @ 60. When my speedo says I am going 60 I am really going 62. So I adjust accordingly. You can upsize to 225/65R17's and not have any rubbing issues( largest you can run before it becomes an issue )and you have some really good tires to choose from... 225/65R-17: Firestone Destination LE 2( I have these and HIGHLY recommend them! see below ) General Grabber HTS( excellent tire ) Firestone Precision Touring Continental ProContact w/ EcoPlus BFGoodrich Long Trail T/A Tour Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia Michelin Defender Yokohama Geolander AT/S Firestone Destination LE2 in 225/65R-17 is what I am running on my 2011 Patriot. Like you I don't off road but need my tires to perform very well in the snow. I don't want to mess around with snow tires and having to swap rims/tires 2X's a year, nor do I want to run AT's which cost more and impact ride/MPG either, so I just get a quality AS tire that is good year round( hard for the Patriot & Compass due to tire size issues ). I also fish and waterfowl hunt so it means towing my boat from April - Feb. Ramps can be muddy or snow/ice covered depending on time of year which makes it "interesting" launching and pulling my boat. I have a pretty demanding set of needs for an All Season tire. In the past I always had 4WD full sized truck. I downsized to the Patriot for a variety of reasons but bad weather ability was definitely high on the list of must have abilities. The stock tire offerings made that tough though. In the past I ran Firestone Destination LE's( the LE2's are a new tire replacing the LE's )on my trucks and they did great in the snow. My plan was to go from the dealer to the tire store and replace the OE tires with the Destination LE's but I didn't realize the issue with the stock sizes used on these vehicles making it so hard to get a good tire. I tried waiting a while to see if they would be offered but finally it got to the point I needed to do something as towing my boat in the snow was a real adventure with the stock tires( they were ok when not towing ). The new LE2's were not offered in a stock size either though so I had no choice but to upsize. I have been very happy with the move however as the ride is vastly improved, it is actually quieter, and the bad weather performance is outstanding as I have come to expect from Firestone Destination series tires. Seeing as you are only concerned with on road stuff and bad weather performance( I assume no duck boats to tow in the snow like me )you could pick one of the stock size tires above and do fine. Probably the best bang for the buck( tread life, bad weather performance, and cost )would be the Hankook Optimo H727's. A very good, long life, affordable tire that does very well in the snow. They are a popular tire for Patriot & Compass owners who stay on road but have bad weather needs. I would suggest you at least consider upgrading to 225/65R-17's for a greatly improved ride. The LE2's in this size are not much more $$$ than the tires avaible in the stock sizes and they are leaps and bounds superior to them. Hope this helps you out. The LE2's and some shots of them on my Patriot...
Awesome write up NHpatriot! Great pics as well! I'm hoping to get my first Jeep tomorrow either a 2012 or 2014 FDI. Love how much great info. Is on the forums thanks to great write ups like yours!

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