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Unread 08-17-2014, 10:34 AM   #1
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Trailer Hitch

Hey all, I'm thinking of trading my 2011 Liberty in for a 2014 Patriot 4x4.
Is it possible to install a hitch on the Patriot, ive never seen one with a hitch and I pull a small utility trailer. Ive noticed on the Jeep web page you can order a hitch with a manual tranny, but don't see if it's possible to get a hitch with the automatic. Appreciate any answers

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Unread 08-17-2014, 11:48 AM   #2
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Not only is it possible it is relatively easy to do. if you do not order the factory towing package bumper cover you will have to trim the rear bumper cover at the bottom to allow the receiver to stick through, though. I used a 2" Curt and ordered it with a wiring kit. I used the bolts already on my factory two hooks on the driver's side. Get a FD-1 Pat with the new six speed auto...by far the best MK I have driven and I have driven/ridden in just abut every combo.

I did some comparison shopping and got mine through Amazon with a wiring kit for about $140 shipped.
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Unread 08-17-2014, 03:46 PM   #3
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One thing, there is no oil cooler available from Jeep to go with the 6 speed automatic, so you're limited to 1,000 lbs.
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Unread 08-17-2014, 08:01 PM   #4
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I did some digging on the Jeep site and they do offer everything including the oil cooler kit, kinda weird though cause ive been told by dealer guys that the Patriot can't tow anything. I only got a utility trailer. Appreciate the help.
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Unread 08-18-2014, 07:47 AM   #5
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You can find Patriots with the 6 speed that have the factory towing prep package which includes the oil cooler, but you can't add an oil cooler to a 6 speed Patriot. The only Mopar kits available are for the 5 speed manual and the CVT.
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Unread 08-18-2014, 09:23 AM   #6
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Keep in mind that sometimes the factory is completely full of crap. On my '14 I made the dealer install the skid plate package as part of the deal. They checked and Ma' Mopar said that there were no skid plates for the '14 auto. Just as on the oil cooler were people say "The only Mopar kits available are for the 5 speed manual and the CVT." BS. I had them order up all of the '13 plates and fasteners for that CVT thing. Guess what? They bolted on just like they would have on that '13. The dealer dude who installed it confirmed that it was straightforward and no mods had to be made. There is definitely a trailer package available with the 6-spd. So....yeah, if there is a factory oil cooler there is one in the parts chain somewhere. Anyone who doubts this is not using common sense. And it may well be the same one already in use, just like with the "they don't make them" skid plates for mine. It just takes a guinea pig to test it.
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Unread 08-18-2014, 12:17 PM   #7
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Keep in mind that sometimes the factory is completely full of crap. On my '14 I made the dealer install the skid plate package as part of the deal. They checked and Ma' Mopar said that there were no skid plates for the '14 auto. Just as on the oil cooler were people say "The only Mopar kits available are for the 5 speed manual and the CVT." BS. I had them order up all of the '13 plates and fasteners for that CVT thing. Guess what? They bolted on just like they would have on that '13. The dealer dude who installed it confirmed that it was straightforward and no mods had to be made. There is definitely a trailer package available with the 6-spd. So....yeah, if there is a factory oil cooler there is one in the parts chain somewhere. Anyone who doubts this is not using common sense. And it may well be the same one already in use, just like with the "they don't make them" skid plates for mine. It just takes a guinea pig to test it.

I've contacted several people at Jeep, as well as with several suppliers. The answer is always...

Unfortunately Mopar does not currently offer a Engine/Transmission Cooler Kit for the new 2014 Patriot & Compass with the 6 speed automatic transmission. Once a cooler kit becomes available we will add it to the site, so check back for future updates from Mopar.

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Thank you for your recent inquiry to Mopar.com

Please contact your local dealer for information on the part and to
place your order.
Currently an oil cooler for your 2104 Patriot is not available through
Mopar.com.
Please check in again at Mopar.com as we continue to add new accessories
and parts often.

Thanks again for contacting Mopar.com

Sincerely,

Duane

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Unread 08-19-2014, 12:15 PM   #8
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Hey all, I'm thinking of trading my 2011 Liberty in for a 2014 Patriot 4x4.
Is it possible to install a hitch on the Patriot, ive never seen one with a hitch and I pull a small utility trailer. Ive noticed on the Jeep web page you can order a hitch with a manual tranny, but don't see if it's possible to get a hitch with the automatic. Appreciate any answers
It's definitely possible to install a hitch on the Patriot. I see people with hitches on their Patriots all the time where I live. I actually got mine for my Wrangler from hitchweb.com If you are still looking for a hitch, you should definitely check them out
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Unread 08-19-2014, 01:01 PM   #9
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I've contacted several people at Jeep, as well as with several suppliers. The answer is always...

Unfortunately Mopar does not currently offer a Engine/Transmission Cooler Kit for the new 2014 Patriot & Compass with the 6 speed automatic transmission. Once a cooler kit becomes available we will add it to the site, so check back for future updates from Mopar.

Thanks!
Corey

Corey Silvia
Director of Parts Operations
JustForJeeps.com

And

Thank you for your recent inquiry to Mopar.com

Please contact your local dealer for information on the part and to
place your order.
Currently an oil cooler for your 2104 Patriot is not available through
Mopar.com.
Please check in again at Mopar.com as we continue to add new accessories
and parts often.

Thanks again for contacting Mopar.com

Sincerely,

Duane

Customer Service Representative
Mopar Customer Assistance
I believe that your dealer and Mopar.com are telling you that. It is just that they are full of it. I called my dealer and there is still no skid "package" available for a '14 auto. Yet I have them on mine. It must be magic.

If you wrecked your '14 Pat with the auto and the trailer tow package and the cooler could not be repaired would they total the vehicle as it could not be fixed? Nope. So the cooler/lines are out there.

First the tranny:
I cannot see my tranny due to the skid. But most auto's have an inefficient cooler in the radiator. This is true of the CVT. To show its lack of efficiency note the number of posts of CVT guys whose tranny temp warning light comes on even when not towing. The factory in-radiator coolers have lines running to it from the tranny. This most likely applies to the 6-spd as well as such a design is nearly universal. The easy thing to do would be to splice into those lines and add an auxiliary cooler. I realize that most MK owners are going to be too frightened to do that and that leaves dealer stuff. However they apparently did not offer a stand-alone or auxiliary tranny cooler from the factory either as an option when new or as a factory kit to upgrade the stock tranny cooler for an MK. So it appears that unless you go aftermarket you are stuck with the radiator-mounted one. Other than that maybe they will decide to put together a stand-alone tranny cooler upgrade "package" and give it a part number. Don't look for that as the MK is a lame duck and if they haven't felt the need before this they are not going to now. But to reiterate if there is a factory tranny cooler there are parts to duplicate it.

Engine oil cooler:
And as far the engine goes the same thing applies. If it exists as a factory set up ( and we know it does) then it is out there as spare parts. Maybe asking for individual parts as opposed to a kit would help? If you look at the kit already available for other MK drivetrain combos it is a common and ancient designed sandwich that you insert between the filter and housing. This attaches to the ENGINE not the TRANSMISSION and the engine did not change by all reports. The CVT from '09 up shares the same lines from the sandwich to the radiator as the manual ( http://www.mopar.com/part/82210701 ). What do you wanna bet that the same lines work from the unchanged engine on the '14 or that they could be made to do so easily? This system then has lines running to from the sandwich to the factory radiator hoses and then uses the radiator to cool the engine oil. This is a stupid & inefficient design where an aux. cooler would work much better.

If I were to feel the need for this upgrade I would run separate stand-alone coolers for each component. Either way all you would really need from the factory the correct sandwich on the engine....which is almost assuredly the same across the line. Then running lines to an aux. cooler/radiator would be a cinch whether you did one for both components or just the engine.
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Unread 08-19-2014, 10:08 PM   #10
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If you wrecked your '14 Pat with the auto and the trailer tow package and the cooler could not be repaired would they total the vehicle as it could not be fixed? Nope. So the cooler/lines are out there.

That was the exact argument I made. The response I got from JeepCares on another forum was :

"I am not sure what it would entail - or even if you can - add a cooler using production replacement parts. You might want to try checking with your dealer."

I have no doubt that the sandwich for the oil filter should be the same. So I guess the only part we need to track down is the hose that comes with the tow prep package on the '14 Pat with the 6 speed auto. I'll keep looking.
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Unread 08-20-2014, 01:12 PM   #11
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Someone will eventually want one bad enough to order up the kit I posted above and try it. Then we will see. My trailer is too small to warrant me spending even the $150 on it. Well, you would loose a little oil and you would need to drain the radiator if you did it the stock way so it would be closer to $200. Not a bank breaker but not on my radar as I do not need it.
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