[rookie1]

my 08 pat FD 1 has single plastic shield covering sides & bottom. So, I will have to install left & right shield before installing the narrow metal skid.

[Gramps]

The Body Shop Supply place didn't have these 13mm Hex Rivnuts either and no listing. Let me know how you guys are doing on finding them.

[OnRoad]

Well folks, the 08 model of Compass is slightly different in the front. I had a chance to get some photos this morning while I was getting an oil change.
(Did I mention I love my Jeep dealer )

I have a photo that is of the same view as gramps
eSkid Plates 016.jpg and it looks rather different. (There is actually a molded hook on the passenger side as well..)

There is a square cut out above a round hole. It looks like it is designed to have something bolted in place as an insert into the rail over the hole....

I am going to see what I can do to get some photos posted.

The rear is exactly the same so the gas tank plates should be able to be installed the same way with the hex rivnuts...

[Gramps]

Here's the pic from OnRoad (top) and mine for comparison.

[Argent33]

hmmm missing those two holes in the beam that are probably for holding the nut to tighten the whole thing down...interesting

[OnRoad]

Originally Posted by Argent33

hmmm missing those two holes in the beam that are probably for holding the nut to tighten the whole thing down...interesting

I'm guessing they have a snap in or screw in insert based on the 2 small holes next to the large square one...

[JLink]

I just read the entire thread and am more confused now...

So you guys all own Compasses? They do not fit? Holes are not in correct spots or are they? It looks like one person actually mounted it. But it looks like its a Patriot. Do I have all that correct?

[OnRoad]

Originally Posted by JLink

I just read the entire thread and am more confused now...

So you guys all own Compasses? They do not fit? Holes are not in correct spots or are they? It looks like one person actually mounted it. But it looks like its a Patriot. Do I have all that correct?

The mounting holes are in the correct spot. Both the Compass and the non-FDII Patriot do not have the nuts pre-installed in the body for bolting the plates to. This is what a lot of the discussion is about. The post about the differences in the front rail MAY apply to both the Compass and the Patriot but someone with an 08 Pat needs to check and see...

[JLink]

Ok, so why not pinch the larger hole (in the body) with washers and nuts on both sides the sheet metal? Or possibly take a normal high grade nut and weld on the additional material to make it fit. Or just weld the nut to the body...

[Gramps]

Lotta quotes so bare with me.

Originally Posted by OnRoad

Well folks, the 08 model of Compass is slightly different in the front. I had a chance to get some photos this morning while I was getting an oil change.
(Did I mention I love my Jeep dealer )

I have a photo that is of the same view as Gramps
eSkid Plates 016.jpg and it looks rather different. (There is actually a molded hook on the passenger side as well..)

There is a square cut out above a round hole. It looks like it is designed to have something bolted in place as an insert into the rail over the hole....

I am going to see what I can do to get some photos posted.

The rear is exactly the same so the gas tank plates should be able to be installed the same way with the hex rivnuts...

Originally Posted by Argent33

hmmm missing those two holes in the beam that are probably for holding the nut to tighten the whole thing down...interesting

The only difference that is going to matter is your center hole is round and not hex. The far left is out of view and (mine) is covered with a bit of close out that will need to be removed or trimmed. If you look at where those 2 rectangular holes are on yours in the flange that hangs down it appears to be the same size as the flange on mine, I just don't have the rectangular holes like you do. The "towers" on the front of the Skid Plate are 1" tall and let the plate hang down below the flange.

Originally Posted by OnRoad

I'm guessing they have a snap in or screw in insert based on the 2 small holes next to the large square one...

I have no idea what these rectangular holes are for, maybe something on an export for mounting photon torpedoes or laser canons.

Originally Posted by JLink

I just read the entire thread and am more confused now...

So you guys all own Compasses? They do not fit? Holes are not in correct spots or are they? It looks like one person actually mounted it. But it looks like its a Patriot. Do I have all that correct?

Originally Posted by OnRoad

The mounting holes are in the correct spot. Both the Compass and the non-FDII Patriot do not have the nuts preinstalled in the body for bolting the plates to. This is what a lot of the discussion is about. The post about the differences in the front rail MAY apply to both the Compass and the Patriot but someone with an 08 Pat needs to check and see...

Correct they will fit and there's nothing that we can't figure out. You'll need to mic or use a caliper on that round hole and let me know what size it is.

Originally Posted by JLink

OK, so why not pinch the larger hole (in the body) with washers and nuts on both sides the sheet metal? Or possibly take a normal high grade nut and weld on the additional material to make it fit. Or just weld the nut to the body...

No access to inside the channel for putting a bolt threw from the inside and no way to hold a wrench on it to tighten anything down.

Not to worry, all of this will make since in the next week or two. I am working on devising a way that anybody can do this at home without any special tools except maybe a pop riveter and a rotary file. Certainly not a welder. The fasteners that we need have been the trouble, they're Hex Rivnuts and not very very easy to find in small quantities but are they ever cool! I have a batch to try out due in on Monday. The weather is still working against me. They've changed the forecast and it now looks like I won't have a dry day until Wednesday to try them out. If for some reason this first batch doesn't work out I do have a different one that I can order (more expensive) that I know will work. Quality takes time!

Oh, and hvac59 did his on and FD I Patriot. Same thing except the Patriot doesn't have the a splash shield in the front like the Compass.

[Jeepster55]

yesterday i had a dealer in Mass call me for this part (5105236AB), but didn't buy it. i'm surprised we still had it. i had ordered 2 (1 for me) a month ago or so, so we still have ONE in stock. looks like according to Chryslers "DealerConnect" there are only 3 dealers in the country with one and only ONE in the PDC system, in Chicago.

if anyone wants this one, you can call me at 1-800-969-1992 after 7am EDT (we're in Indianapolis). i'll sell it for Mopar List $160.00 (-25% if you mention your screen name to me) and i'll even ship it anywhere within the continental US for free. just want to help out a fellow MK owner.

Kevin
Tom O'Brien Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge of Greenwood, Inc

P.S. i thought i posted this on this site earlier, but guess not.....thanks "Gramps" for pointing that out! my bad......

[Jeepster55]

Originally Posted by Jeepster55

yesterday i had a dealer in Mass call me for this part (5105236AB), but didn't buy it. i'm surprised we still had it. i had ordered 2 (1 for me) a month ago or so, so we still have ONE in stock. looks like according to Chryslers "DealerConnect" there are only 3 dealers in the country with one and only ONE in the PDC system, in Chicago.

sorry, a dealer in Michigan bought the one we had. i'm surprised i didn't get one call about this. did everyone that was wanting one GET ONE?

[Gramps]

Finally got my scanner up and running...again. Here's a view of the Patriot FD II that I'm sure many owners will never hope to see out on the trail. Shows very nicely the skid plates and the supports on the rear lower control arms.

[OnRoad]

Interesting. The front skid plate does not look like the ones we bought...
Must have been the planned version ....

The size of the cutout for the tow hitch appears to be the same size as the indented area on my bumper. I noticed that your hitch has a smaller cut out and was kind of wondering about that...

Now, if I can finally get some sleep I might be a bit more coherent...

[Gramps]

Originally Posted by OnRoad

Interesting. The front skid plate does not look like the ones we bought...
Must have been the planned version ....

No cut out for the oil filter access. Sure glad they put that in!

Originally Posted by OnRoad

The size of the cutout for the tow hitch appears to be the same size as the indented area on my bumper. I noticed that your hitch has a smaller cut out and was kind of wondering about that...

Now, if I can finally get some sleep I might be a bit more coherent...

The pic does show the cut out along the indent. Mine was cut to the pattern provided in the instructions. Whatever floats your boat. Now go get some sleep.