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Jeepster55 03-05-2008 05:14 PM

Skid Plates
 
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here are the pics of the 'skid plates' used on the Patriots with the "Off Road Pkg" (AWL) and FDII.

the first is the Engine/Trans skid plate and the second are the Fuel Tank skid plates (takes 2, a left and right side)

part numbers and prices are in a post following this. i got mine in and hopefully will have them on my Compass in about 10 days.

ENJOY!!!

Urr 03-05-2008 10:35 PM

So these are the original (=Mopar) steel skid plates?

Gramps 03-06-2008 04:38 AM

Yes, these are the factory plates.

The front one is 5105236AB (superseded from AA) which Mopar Specifies as the "Engine/Trans Skid Plate" for MK's from 2007-2009.

The gas tank 'skid plates' are 5105234AA (right) and 5105235AA (left).

Credit goes to Jeepster for finding the correct part number for the Front Skid Plate. :thumbsup: My parts people came up with the right numbers for the Gas Tank Skid Plates but could only come up with the Front Belly Pan number of 5116372AB which is plastic.

Jeepster55 03-06-2008 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Urr (Post 4909326)
So these are the original (=Mopar) steel skid plates?

YES!

sorry, i should have posted this info with the pics, but i was so happy i got the pics 'resized' to upload, i forgot. here ya go:

the 'engine/trans' skid plate is pn 5105236AB and has a "List Price" of $160.00

the 'left fuel tank' skid plate is pn 5105235AA with a "List Price" of $43.35

the 'right fuel tank' skid plate is pn 5105234AA, same price as the left.

does this help?:D

Jeepster55 03-06-2008 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gramps (Post 4909763)
Yes, these are the factory plates.

The front one is 5105236AB (superseded from AA) which Mopar Specifies as the "Engine/Trans Skid Plate" for MK's from 2007-2009.

The gas tank 'skid plates' are 5105234AA (right) and 5105235AA (left).

Credit goes to Jeepster for finding the correct part number for the Front Skid Plate. :thumbsup: My parts people came up with the right numbers for the Gas Tank Skid Plates but could only come up with the Front Belly Pan number of 5116372AB which is plastic.

ha ha ha ha......up at the same time, huh? well, i would like to take all the credit, but i can't. i did get the numbers for the fuel tank, but my friend "Rookie" from another forum put me on to the engine/trans skid plate number. he just wasn't sure it was correct. i only made the phone call to Mopar Specifying to confirm the number, since it was NO WHERE to be found in the EPC. thanks to "Rookie", where ever you are!!!! :thumbsup:

Gramps 03-08-2008 02:57 PM

I picked up mine today :D. I paid about the price that Jeepster gave from Frank Boucher in Janesville. I'm trying to negotiate a bit of a discount with them, they do it for local clubs so I'll see if they can swing something for me because of JF. Hey, it never hurts to TRY! Very happy to get them :D

I'm still waiting for some warm weather to put them on but first I'll have to crawl underneath to figure out what nuts/bolts or whatever I need.

They measure out to be 10ga steel or .1345"

hvac59 03-09-2008 07:09 AM

Good to here Gramps, I'll post back or PM ya' whith a price when mine come in. Looks like mid week due to the parts dept. waiting on one of the tank skids. Had to come from Michigan is the word. I was wondering about the fasteners also! Oh, and how about the side pieces that entend up into the wheelwell?
hvac59

Gramps 03-09-2008 08:23 AM

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Mine all came out of the Warren PDC in Warren, MI, there also is the National PDC in Centerline, MI.

The side pieces are called closeouts and you can see them in the first pic below. They are also plastic (we had one of those come in, too, that I didn't take) and look to be nothing more than a "splash shield".

The 3 bolts on the front of the "Skidstrip" will need to be 1.2" longer that the bolts called out on the non FD II bolts. Since we're talking metric that's 30mm. The 3 bolts in the rear should stay the same because were only looking at the thickness of the material which is less than 5mm.

Best guess on what's needed for the Skidstrip:
To be determined. Don't get these yet!
3 - M6x1x55 (25+30) for the front
3 - M6x1x20 (maybe 30?) for the rear
1 - M6x1x20 or 25 for the left center (I think that is just an open threaded whole).

What we need to use for the gas Tank Plates I'll just have to look at and figure it from there.

Argent33 03-09-2008 09:07 AM

Wonder how these fit on a manual transmission....

Gramps 03-09-2008 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Argent33 (Post 4923519)
Wonder how these fit on a manual transmission....

Good question! The front locating holes will be the same but right now I'm not quite sure what the center and rear holes line up with. I'll do some measuring and try and get some more info while I'm underneath mine. If someone with the manual trans will could get some pics we could compare notes.

Argent33 03-09-2008 11:04 AM

if I can get mine up on ramps sometime - I'll try and get some shots of the trans area

Gramps 03-09-2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Argent33 (Post 4923904)
if I can get mine up on ramps sometime - I'll try and get some shots of the trans area

I don't think that you'll need to do that.

I don’t think that we’re going to run into any more problems with the manual trans than the CVT. The Skid Plates will be attaching somewhere in the red ovals indicated in the pics (the ones marked are just a guess). The Patriots will be somewhat easier because of how the front fascia and the Skid Plate actually meet where they attach. The Compass, because the Fascia extends further out and then has a splash shield (front close out), is going to be a bit different. Remembering back to when I did the engine oil cooler and having to remove the front splash shield is where I remember seeing the 3 large bolts to attach the skid plate. It may be that we end up leaving off the splash shield or it may sit under the Skid Plate nicely. These pieces are also the reason that the Compass doesn’t have the same approach angle as the Patriot.

How to get a nut on the top side of the holes to stay put while we tighten the bolts from the bottom is going to be another trick that has to be worked out. Just maybe with Jeepster being able to do his in the shop he might find some special parts that should be used and shoot us some part numbers. The first time is always the hardest and no these do NOT come with instructions!

Also in these pictures you can see the “side Close Outs” mentioned in a previous post are already there.

Just a note on the front Tow hooks, we'll probably do another thread on those later. The Compass and Patriot Font Bumper Reinforcement without Tow Eye Brackets are different but, they are the same with Tow Eye Brackets, 5303761AB. So it appears early on they did consider putting tow hooks on the Compass, too! Tow Hook Right - 5115268AB; left - 5115269AB.

Gramps 03-11-2008 06:30 PM

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It was above 32 degrees today so I got the ramps out, held the front plate in place :barbell: and and found out what lines up with what. This isn't quite a simple bolt in because there are no threaded holes, just open holes, where these will attach. The 3 in the rear and the middle hole are about a 9/16" opening and the 3 fronts are a hex shape that may have some kind of pressed in nut at the factory. Also there is absolutely NO WAY that you will be able to slip a nut up on top and be able to hold it with a wrench :brickwall. :idea: For the 4 holes in the rear I'll try and find some of those "spring clip" type nuts that slip on to the sheet metal of an appropriate size. The three in front will more than likely have to be modified to use the same thing.

The pic with the 2 hex holes has one more hole under the closeout in the direction of the arrow. The closeout will need to be either removed or cut depending on if you want it to look factory. I expect that maybe the non FD II Patriot may have the same problems with the hex holes, you'll need to check.

The gas tank skid plates aren't going to be any more fun than the front. But all of this is doable! :thumbsup:

:help::help::help:
NEED A FAVOR!! Anybody with an FD II. I need you to put a wrench on the bolt heads and tell me what size that you used. That way I can determine the shank size of the bolts and keep them close to what the factory used. :cheers2:

Jeepster55 03-12-2008 03:40 AM

excuse me for being "Mr Obvious", but wouldn't you just REMOVE the plastic shield and bolt the 'skid plate' to the same mounting points, using the same hardware?:confused::confused::confused: (pls keep in mind i've not been under my Compass as of yet.....ok?)

if not, i'll check today and see if i can come up with any 'hardware' part numbers. thanks for checking that out. it will be difficult, since the Engine/Trans skid plate isn't IN the EPC so i would doubt that the hardware is either. but i know that the crossmembers are the same on a FDI and FDII, so there must be some sort of well nuts or something to insert into the holes. the "TJ's" use the same thing on their side steps where they mount to the frame.

if all else fails, i'll call "Mother Mopar" again.........:rolleyes:

P.S. do you have any idea what the diameter is of the holes you have pictured

Gramps 03-12-2008 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeepster55 (Post 4938091)
excuse me for being "Mr Obvious", but wouldn't you just REMOVE the plastic shield and bolt the 'skid plate' to the same mounting points, using the same hardware?:confused::confused::confused: (pls keep in mind i've not been under my Compass as of yet.....ok?)

Nope, those holes don't line up and the mounts on the Skid plates are the last picture in post 12 so it's not like you can just redrill the skid plate either.
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Originally Posted by Jeepster55 (Post 4938091)

if not, i'll check today and see if i can come up with any 'hardware' part numbers. thanks for checking that out. it will be difficult, since the Engine/Trans skid plate isn't IN the EPC so i would doubt that the hardware is either. but i know that the crossmembers are the same on a FDI and FDII, so there must be some sort of well nuts or something to insert into the holes. the "TJ's" use the same thing on their side steps where they mount to the frame.

if all else fails, i'll call "Mother Mopar" again.........:rolleyes:

P.S. do you have any idea what the diameter is of the holes you have pictured

I believe the round holes are about 9/16", I'll recheck tonight and I didn't measure the hex holes.

I did see a "Rivet" listed in seval places for the Fascia, etc. What does a 6104885AA Rivet look like?

Also try and check out the fasteners for the Fuel tank skid plates, if you can. I'm hoping that we don't have to drop the drive shaft and fuel tanks to do these.


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