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Unread 03-27-2007, 04:08 AM   #1
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Rock Crawler Review - Patriot

Good review in Rock Crawler without the Compass slamming of Motor Trends.

http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...rive/index.asp



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Nice review. Pity that the author felt the need to "explain himself" to the Jeep snobs who would be reading the review. I know it was necessary, just sad.

See the But It's Not Hard-Core section.
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Thanks for the link. That was a good read.
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Nice review. Pity that the author felt the need to "explain himself" to the Jeep snobs who would be reading the review. I know it was necessary, just sad.

See the But It's Not Hard-Core section.
When you compare anything to the Wranglers and it's predecessors, nothing is hard core unless it's been modified. Why should Jeep build something to knock them off of the iconic pedestal that they've been on for years? For those of us on a more conservative budget and needs, these fill the void that Jeep has been missing out on. Other manufacturers have been eroding on Jeeps SUV market for years, it's time that Jeep starts eroding on theirs, namely AWD. Jeep also goes one better and gives you a 4WD lock mode.

I especially liked the run across the desert with the FD I, for which it is perfectly suited, and then switched to the FD II to go real rock climbing. I do wish that they had taken BOTH on the rock climbing just so that they could fairly compare the two and what the gains were with the FD II package. Really too bad you can't order the "Off-road package" with the skid plates, etc without getting the CVT with crawl ratio. I'm sure that package would be a good combination for a lot of folks. Time to twist your own wrenches. How does that go, righty tighty, lefty loosy?

Regardless, it's a great read! Hat's off to Rock Crawler.
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When you compare anything to the Wranglers and it's predecessors, nothing is hard core unless it's been modified. Why should Jeep build something to knock them off of the iconic pedestal that they've been on for years? For those of us on a more conservative budget and needs, these fill the void that Jeep has been missing out on. Other manufacturers have been eroding on Jeeps SUV market for years, it's time that Jeep starts eroding on theirs, namely AWD. Jeep also goes one better and gives you a 4WD lock mode.
I agree! I'm loving my Limited Patriot and for some reason reminds me of the Willys Wagons of the 50's that I'm so fond of. Those old wagons were marketed as affordable, roomy, and good on gas... exactly the 3 points that the Patriot has going for it.

I just thought it was sad that the author felt the need to apologize to the "hard-core" Jeep contingent. Nobody, including Jeep, needs to apologize for the Patriot. IMO anyways.
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I agree! I'm loving my Limited Patriot and for some reason reminds me of the Willys Wagons of the 50's that I'm so fond of. Those old wagons were marketed as affordable, roomy, and good on gas... exactly the 3 points that the Patriot has going for it.

I just thought it was sad that the author felt the need to apologize to the "hard-core" Jeep contingent. Nobody, including Jeep, needs to apologize for the Patriot. IMO anyways.
My first Willys experience was with Willys Wagon during my HS days in Tucson in the mid 60's. It belonged to a friend and was used sometimes as the cruise mobile. You've got a LOT more luxury and better ride with the Patriot!

My second Willys was a '37 Coupe with a small Hemi (does that count?) and the 3rd was owned by a Dude Ranch where I worked. They had a CJ2A that they dropped a 260 Ford into. Ahhh, the good old days! Always good to hear from happy owners. Enjoy your ride!

If I can modify my MK to do 90% of what a Wrangler can do, I'll be real happy but I'm very satisfied with how it's handled everything so far. I also love the CVT! Think that I'm going with the K & N set-up for some quick HP gains this summer. Check it out in the Compass section if you get a chance.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f98/k-n-aircharger-high-flow-intake-cold-air-intake-merged-397452/

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My first Willys experience was with Willys Wagon during my HS days in Tucson in the mid 60's. It belonged to a friend and was used sometimes as the cruise mobile. You've got a LOT more luxury and better ride with the Patriot!

I can still feel the steel coils through the straw stuffing in those seats. Painted steel floor with real wood slats. Steering wheel whose diameter rivals that of an old Greyhound bus! Storage compartment under the seats. Good times.


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If I can modify my MK to do 90% of what a Wrangler can do, I'll be real happy but I'm very satisfied with how it's handled everything so far. I also love the CVT! Think that I'm going with the K & N set-up for some quick HP gains this summer. Check it out in the Compass section if you get a chance.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397452

Thanks for the heads-up.
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